Grass pellet energy

Grass pellet energy

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:42 pm

My broke dairy farmer neighbor friend has constructed a machine to dry left over hay into grass pellets.

http://hvgenergy.wordpress.com/about/

I think he sold a unit to Warwick town (all liberals of course) for $35000. I gotta follow this one. The last I saw he had a massive diesel engine running to process this stuff, the input energy must be huge. Rube Goldberg would be proud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vdg-_56kX8

This Saturday is another BIG demo and the local high end pellet stove shop will be there to show this crap burning on their latest overpriced offerings and there will be plenty of suckers I'm sure. I must remember to throw a bucket or two of coal on the fires before I go as I might be there all day. Perhaps I'll send a video to this board so we can have a good giggle. Mike Sweeton is the Warwick town sup. (and a real idiot) and his last masterpiece was organizing the kids to bring to school left over oil and making the school bus company run their Fords on it. After destroying all the injection pumps (which the poor operator had to pay for out of pocket) they quietly forget about it. So this latest venture shows promise to be another fiasco. Hey, my coal stoves are all running perfectly I NEED entertainment - I'm bored. If you are going to join us don't mention the word coal to the assembled crowd, you may get lynched. These liberals are mean. Forget pumpkin chucking this is where it is at. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA, somebody is sure to slay me there, I hope popcorn is on sale.
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: Wiz On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:58 pm

Like to now the cost factor on running setup.. 1 ton process in a hour.
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: tsb On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:15 pm

They didn't make that rig for $35,000.

Around here, mulch hay is bringing 80-100 dollars a ton.
Pellets are 235-265 a ton. So you need to process and store
a ton of pellets for $150.00. If it takes an hour with two people
running the mill, you've pretty much blown the wad right there.
No insurance, no fuel, no profit. You slay me !
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:17 pm

Now wiz don't get impatient. The costs of moving from farm to farm, maintenance and spare parts, only getting used two months of the year and in Garys barn for the rest of the time and in a wet season (many of those) it won't get used at all. Depreciation should be a riot. I couldn't get hard wood pellets to run reliably, imagine the consumer complaints, jammed augers etc., chimney fires (burns very smoky), law suits.... so much fun. After this idea collapses and the machine rusts in the field I may try to buy it for the scrap value. Perhaps I can put an engine and some seats on it and drive to town on it. Endless possibilities. We know how to have fun here.
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:50 pm

Hey! You are turning the grass into horse *censored*. Do you get a ton an hour? Where is that methane generator you were talking about.

A farmer in France just piled it up in his yard and ran pipe through it and heated his house from the heat of the rotting grass.
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:05 am

A farmer in France just piled it up in his yard and ran pipe through it and heated his house from the heat of the rotting grass.


Franco, you are just making fun of this fine project. Obama has plans for build a million of these I expect to see a DOE rep at the demo, complete with a stupid long hair affectation, educated at MIT and like the head community organizer, having never had a job in his life. He will be soooo smart. You see it's a shovel ready project. Forget Solyndra, here in the Hudson Valley we are going to lead the nation with money wasting projects, we certainly have the talent. I don't want to see any PA troublemakers at our little show pointing out that 150 miles sway is an 11 cubic mile seam of the worlds finest energy waiting to go. The IRS will be there too just in case someone with half a brain turns up.
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:07 am

I thought it had to be processed through the Rabbit first?
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: tsb On: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:45 pm

It would probably be cheaper and burn better !
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:01 am

Sounds like my town and their new 50 million dollar school. They put in a wood chip boiler for a heating plant, but installed smart boards too instead of the old dry erase or old chalk boards. They save 50% on their heating costs versus the old school, but their electricity consumption doubled. In the end we are still taxed pretty heavily on it.
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: KLook On: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:23 am

Sounds like my town and their new 50 million dollar school. They put in a wood chip boiler for a heating plant, but installed smart boards too instead of the old dry erase or old chalk boards. They save 50% on their heating costs versus the old school, but their electricity consumption doubled. In the end we are still taxed pretty heavily on it.


Are the kids any smarter??? No, somehow I doubt they get any better education then I did going to a 2 room schoolhouse back in the day. But it sure looks pretty and makes the education officials think they are improving things. Still interested in how the pellet thing will hold up long term. Longevity and price stability.

Kevin
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:27 am

It's just a location problem, instead of farms they got to install in Gov. building. Except maybe hold off in DC until the nation energy needs are much higher, no use in wasting our main source or they would figure a way to send it overseas & still tax us. :mad:
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:20 am

Plan on cleaning your pellet stove three times a day with the ash that sh*& will put out too! Wait until the Great Pretender gets wind of this boondoggle!
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: Ed.A On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:52 am

Jesus I feel crunchy just after watching 1 minute of that video.
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: smokerdude On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:24 am

Everybody they interviewed stood in front of a big ass electric motor. How many pellets does it take to turn those babies?
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Re: Grass pellet energy

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:52 pm

Did they ever give an estimate of btu's per pound? That big ole electric motor eats a lot of 'btu's'.... 'Your electrical rates will necessarily skyrocket' and there go the profits.
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