new ti burning coal

new ti burning coal

PostBy: jhart On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:37 pm

I am new to burning coal and have recently installed hyfire ii with a hot air jacket in my basement. My home is a older 3000 sq ft farm house with poor insulation. The outside temps are in the 30's and I an burning around 65- 70 lbs a day. Is this average or out of line?
jhart
 
Stove/Furnace Make: leisure line
Stove/Furnace Model: hyfire ii

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: LDPosse On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:40 pm

Welcome to the forum!

Is that in the 30s in the daytime, or at night? What temperature do you keep the house at? Do you have any pics of your setup? Also, updating your profile with your general location can be helpful.
LDPosse
 
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, Kozy King 100

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: blrman07 On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:42 pm

Welcome to the forum. I do not have particulars on your stove but if we keep watching those enlightened individuals will start chiming in. Be prepared for lots of questions and if you can post some pics of your setup. Some things to note will be how many floors, what system do you use to distribute the heat, if using blowers CFM ratings, and lots of other nit picky details. Keep the faith and others will appear to help.

Rev. Larry
blrman07
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Baseburners & Antiques: rebuilding a 1906 March Brownback Double Heater, using a UMCO 1920's Pot Belly stove in the church
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.


Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: tsb On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:42 pm

That's only about 32,500 btu / hour. Almost doesn't seem like enough.
Do you have both burners lit ?
tsb
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Binford 2000
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Pioneer top vent
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Saey Hanover II

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:44 pm

Hard to speculate jh. Like LD said some pix & a more detailed explanation -- duct work, location, 2 story--3 story--stove in basement--finished--not---etc. Welcome to the FORUM--lots of info/help here--just lay out some more specifics:)
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: jhart On: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:08 pm

I'm in WNY. The temps are 30s at night around 40 daytime. The furnace is located in the basement with the hot air jacket attached to the cold air return plenum on my oil furnace. The coal trol temp is set at 68 and is satisfied with a feed rate usually in the 10-20% range. The burners have about 3 inches of burnt coal at the ends of the grates. It is attached to a 40 ft masonry chimney with barometric damper. From comparing to what others claim to use, it seems like I'm burning a lot for this moderate weather.
jhart
 
Stove/Furnace Make: leisure line
Stove/Furnace Model: hyfire ii

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:42 am

tsb wrote:That's only about 32,500 btu / hour. Almost doesn't seem like enough.
Do you have both burners lit ?


I agree that's pretty good :D
I'm burning 40-50 pounds a day in a hand fed for 2500 square feet which includes the unfinished basement. The basement only receives excess radiant heat off the furnace.
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:54 am

Lightning wrote:
tsb wrote:That's only about 32,500 btu / hour. Almost doesn't seem like enough.
Do you have both burners lit ?


I agree that's pretty good :D
I'm burning 40-50 pounds a day in a hand fed for 2500 square feet which includes the unfinished basement. The basement only receives excess radiant heat off the furnace.


Im doing about 30lbs per day in 2200 sq', but I know when temps get colder I will chew up at least 50lbs per day. a lot depends on the temps you wish to maintain as well (some folks are comfortable at 60, some like 70)
you may know this already but ill post it anyways just incase... their is a section on this forum specific to Leisure Line Stoves Leisure Line Stove Company (just incase you needed any specific info on your model).
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:36 am

jhart wrote:I am new to burning coal and have recently installed hyfire ii with a hot air jacket in my basement. My home is a older 3000 sq ft farm house with poor insulation. The outside temps are in the 30's and I an burning around 65- 70 lbs a day. Is this average or out of line?


I think you are doing pretty well! Older homes are energy hogs, and if your farm house is exposed to the wind....that can double your coal consumption compared to someone else that lives in town and doesn't see much wind.

Also, don't forget that you are distributing the heat throughout the entire house with duct work...the average temperature in the different rooms is likely higher and more consistent than if you were just using a stove in the living room. Lastly, since the LL is in the return ductwork, it also has to keep the oil furnace warm...that results in more heat in the basement.

How large is the basement? Staying comfortable?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: jhart On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:24 pm

The basement is probably 800 sq ft with unfinished concrete walls. Only one end of the house out of ground though. The house with basement is around 3200 sq ft. The ductwork only heats the 1st floor of the house and the basement is radiant only. Its very comfortable both downstairs and basement, just a lot coal to go through in a year.
jhart
 
Stove/Furnace Make: leisure line
Stove/Furnace Model: hyfire ii

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:42 pm

How much fuel did you burn previously?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: jhart On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:35 pm

Ridiculous amount of oil for years. Then I installed a wood burner. Great heat but a ton of work. I was burning well over 20 cord a year and cutting it myself since I own a few hundred acres.
jhart
 
Stove/Furnace Make: leisure line
Stove/Furnace Model: hyfire ii

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:44 pm

well, if a full cord that would roughly be 22,000,000 btu's depending on which wood and its quality.

A ton of coal is approx 24,000,000 btu's.

so by a rough, 3 second calculation 20 cord would be maybe 18 ton of coal per year.

jhart wrote:Great heat but a ton of work. I was burning well over 20 cord a year and cutting it myself since I own a few hundred acres


on the bright side, you saved a lot of money on health club memberships! Been there done that myself! :)
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:46 pm

jhart wrote:Ridiculous amount of oil for years. Then I installed a wood burner. Great heat but a ton of work. I was burning well over 20 cord a year and cutting it myself since I own a few hundred acres.

That does point to burning a lot of coal too. Just less work. Improving the heat loss of the house would go a long way.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: new ti burning coal

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:16 pm

There may be confusion there between face cords and full cords. He won't need to burn 18 tons of coal :lol:
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix