READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:14 pm

Haha okay ill try it all im saying is the convection fan plug is plugged into convection an the feed motor an combustion fan thats all one unit is plugged into stoker in the back of the stove
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: McGiever On: Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:35 pm

:) :whistle:
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:13 pm

So you what do you want plugged where do you want the combustion n feed motor plugged into the cpnvection port cause thats where it would be if i reversed it
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: McGiever On: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:08 pm

jlentz1006 wrote:So you what do you want plugged where do you want the combustion n feed motor plugged into the cpnvection port cause thats where it would be if i reversed it


Yes
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:24 pm

I can't wait to find out if this works!!! Hurry! :whip:
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: Ed.A On: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:51 pm

Wow...they still make Tri-burners. Very cool
Ed.A
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing III/ '94 Stoker II
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:32 pm

What was the outcome of switching the plugs??? :|
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:55 pm

It would shut off the combustion an carpet an fire would go out
I talked to reading about it there telling me its the configuration of the coal trol well it cant be im still adjusting the flame with the red lobe for heat output readings heat output are controlled on how fast the carpet brings more coal in well the carpet is going at one speed no matter what so either the motor isnt variable cause i did replace it a week ago or something inside the box fried im about ready to throw it through readings window
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:10 pm

Do you have an old regular thermostat you could try it with? Disconnect the coaltrol and see what it does with regular thermostat. I'm assuming you can do that. I'm not familiar with the Reading stoves
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: pvolcko On: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:44 pm

jlentz1006,

In the SETUP menu, what are your settings? Please post them here.

You have a tri-burn stoker mechanism (one plug, one motor blowing combustion air under the grate and also moving the carpet to feed coal). You are saying that it is always running.

If you have TBRN set to N, then this should not be the case. Even at maximum MAX and FR there will always be at least 1 second out of 120 where the stoker will shut off. With MIN of 4 and MAX of 24, there should be significant stretches of time in each 120 second period where the stoker is off (115 seconds to 91 seconds, respectively). If you are in this mode and have MIN/MAX set like this, then you either have:

1) A bad speed control component on the stoker output: inside the control module box, usually only happens if the stoker motor stalls and causes an overload.
2) A badly wired control module box: rare, but it happens
3) You have the stoker motor plugged into the wrong receptacle on the box: we asked you to run through the TEST mode to make sure that the stoker motor only comes on when the STOKER display is on and off when any other display is up, to verify this.

If you have TBRN set to Y, then this can be the case. With MIN of 40 or higher and MAX of 99 then the stoker will always be running, but the speed of the motor will vary as FR goes from 0 to 99. You can tell if the speed control is working properly by counting how many times the carpet moves back and forth between being on the MIN screen and on the MAX screen. I'm not sure of the gearing reductions or motor speed, so you may not even make it through a full cycle in 120 seconds. Just pay attention to how far it moves if that is the case. Between a MIN of 40 and MAX of 99 there should be a significant difference. And again, it is important to verify that the motor is plugged into the correct receptacle and that there is no internal wiring problem (TEST mode will verify these situations). If you find that there is no difference in carpet movement between being on MIN screen and MAX screen and TEST mode works properly, then there may be a problem internally with the speed control components which will require service.
pvolcko
 

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:12 pm

Thats what happened when my first motor blew out but my tbrn is set to Y right now min 8 and max 28 and seen how it acts
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:06 pm

pvolcko wrote:jlentz1006,

In the SETUP menu, what are your settings? Please post them here.

You have a tri-burn stoker mechanism (one plug, one motor blowing combustion air under the grate and also moving the carpet to feed coal). You are saying that it is always running.

If you have TBRN set to N, then this should not be the case. Even at maximum MAX and FR there will always be at least 1 second out of 120 where the stoker will shut off. With MIN of 4 and MAX of 24, there should be significant stretches of time in each 120 second period where the stoker is off (115 seconds to 91 seconds, respectively). If you are in this mode and have MIN/MAX set like this, then you either have:

1) A bad speed control component on the stoker output: inside the control module box, usually only happens if the stoker motor stalls and causes an overload.
2) A badly wired control module box: rare, but it happens
3) You have the stoker motor plugged into the wrong receptacle on the box: we asked you to run through the TEST mode to make sure that the stoker motor only comes on when the STOKER display is on and off when any other display is up, to verify this.

If you have TBRN set to Y, then this can be the case. With MIN of 40 or higher and MAX of 99 then the stoker will always be running, but the speed of the motor will vary as FR goes from 0 to 99. You can tell if the speed control is working properly by counting how many times the carpet moves back and forth between being on the MIN screen and on the MAX screen. I'm not sure of the gearing reductions or motor speed, so you may not even make it through a full cycle in 120 seconds. Just pay attention to how far it moves if that is the case. Between a MIN of 40 and MAX of 99 there should be a significant difference. And again, it is important to verify that the motor is plugged into the correct receptacle and that there is no internal wiring problem (TEST mode will verify these situations). If you find that there is no difference in carpet movement between being on MIN screen and MAX screen and TEST mode works properly, then there may be a problem internally with the speed control components which will require service.


jlentz1006 wrote:Thats what happened when my first motor blew out but my tbrn is set to Y right now min 8 and max 28 and seen how it acts


...........................................BINGO!!!.............................................................................
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:08 pm

Out of warranty control module ill be buying a new one dealer cant just sell control box theyd have to sell me the whole unit
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: jlentz1006 On: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:31 pm

Update put new control module on the stove and it is performing as it should back to conserving coal :) thanks so much everyone for being patient
jlentz1006
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Reading
Stove/Furnace Model: Juniata

Re: READING STOVE PROBLEMS!!!! JUNIATA

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:51 pm

Excellent!
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace