Firebrick Layout for Hitzer 30-95?

 
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Post by uggabugga » Fri. Nov. 15, 2013 3:27 pm

Hi all,
I recently acquired, after much looking, a Hitzer 30-95 that is in pretty good shape but is missing the firebricks from the bottom. The ones on the side are intact.

Although the seller included a manual, it doesn't help at all as there isn't a single diagram in the whole thing. Also, there is a thin steel sheet inside that I don't where it should be placed - it looks like maybe it should be set at a slant to direct the coal toward the grates, but I'm not sure. Will I need to cut the bricks to size, and if so would a masonry blade in a grinder work for this?
Any help would be appreciated :)


 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Nov. 15, 2013 4:06 pm

You gotta post some pix on all that before I go floppin my gums together with advice ;)

 
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Post by franco b » Fri. Nov. 15, 2013 4:46 pm

The bottom should be just grate.

 
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Post by uggabugga » Fri. Nov. 15, 2013 6:42 pm

OK, pictures..
There is still one brick in place in front.

from front, with metal piece toward back
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from front, with metal piece toward back

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from front, plate moved to side
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from top thru hopper hole, steel plate removed
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Nov. 15, 2013 6:54 pm

I could be getting real goofy, but me thinks that piece if steel was an add on to cut the fire box in half for whatever reason--if you remove that flat plate in the back I'm thinkin you'll find another grate--looks like you'll need to remove the side bricks to do that--get that far & by then hopefully an actual 30-95 user will chime in--my stove is the next size up-but someone had tried the same thing & I was real happily surprised to find the back grate--like I said--not sure on this But give it a look see

 
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Post by oliver power » Fri. Nov. 15, 2013 7:21 pm

I never have looked behind the back fire brick on my 30-95. I do know the back fire bricks stand up vertical, just like the sides, only on a slant towards grate. I'm guessing the flat piece of steel goes on an angle/slant, and acts as support under the back fire brick. It is for directing the coal towards the single grate. The 30-95 only has the one grate. Very interesting. I never did look to see how HITZER constructed the angled back of the 30-95. Looks like I know now. Oliver

 
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Post by oliver power » Fri. Nov. 15, 2013 7:28 pm

freetown fred wrote:I could be getting real goofy, but me thinks that piece if steel was an add on to cut the fire box in half for whatever reason--if you remove that flat plate in the back I'm thinkin you'll find another grate--looks like you'll need to remove the side bricks to do that--get that far & by then hopefully an actual 30-95 user will chime in--my stove is the next size up-but someone had tried the same thing & I was real happily surprised to find the back grate--like I said--not sure on this But give it a look see
Hi Fred, Looks like you're correct.......a fire box reducer. Only it is a factory designed fire box reducer. A piece of steel plate on a angle. Very simple. You can do that with your 50-93. Unhook the back grate, and lay a flat steel plate on a angle. How Simple..... Oliver


 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Nov. 15, 2013 8:01 pm

Thanx OP, I was not sure whether the 30-95 only had one grate--now I do--Charles who used to own Dennis Coal made some of those reducer set ups with angle iron & bricks slipped in at an angel with grate connector un-hooked--I thought that was the way it just was until I started to pull it apart & clean my used unit--I was real happily surprised:) Sooooo, there ya have it ub.

 
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Post by uggabugga » Fri. Nov. 15, 2013 9:10 pm

oliver power wrote:I never have looked behind the back fire brick on my 30-95. I do know the back fire bricks stand up vertical, just like the sides, only on a slant towards grate. I'm guessing the flat piece of steel goes on an angle/slant, and acts as support under the back fire brick. It is for directing the coal towards the single grate. The 30-95 only has the one grate. Very interesting. I never did look to see how HITZER constructed the angled back of the 30-95. Looks like I know now. Oliver
interesting to see your location, as I bought this stove just outside Dansville. So I was correct in placing the plate at a slant as in the first picture? And the firebricks sit on top of it, also at an angle?

What is the point of reducing the size of the firebox? There is only one grate, no hidden one, and the seller said this is exactly as he bought it new, minus some firebricks.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Nov. 15, 2013 10:01 pm

Yes, you've got it right--as OP said--angle of steel & rear fire brick, direct coal to grates:) That reduction would be more for the 50-93 for smaller space or cuff season burning if the operator can't get it dialed down. Again ub, you're doing just fine. Back to question on brick--TSC (Tractor Supply has standard size bricks that should fit & if you have to do any cutting--your set-up/grinder will work well--do it outside :clap: toothy

 
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Post by Fire375 » Sat. Nov. 16, 2013 7:26 am

There is no back grate. That is the way it was designed to direct the coal to the grate. The piece of steel sits at an slant and then the firebricks lay on the steel. You will need 4 full brick and then you will have to cut one to finish the rest. There will also be 2 brick laid on edge in the front right beneath the door opening.

 
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Post by oliver power » Sat. Nov. 16, 2013 7:08 pm

uggabugga wrote:
oliver power wrote:I never have looked behind the back fire brick on my 30-95. I do know the back fire bricks stand up vertical, just like the sides, only on a slant towards grate. I'm guessing the flat piece of steel goes on an angle/slant, and acts as support under the back fire brick. It is for directing the coal towards the single grate. The 30-95 only has the one grate. Very interesting. I never did look to see how HITZER constructed the angled back of the 30-95. Looks like I know now. Oliver
interesting to see your location, as I bought this stove just outside Dansville. So I was correct in placing the plate at a slant as in the first picture? And the firebricks sit on top of it, also at an angle?

What is the point of reducing the size of the firebox? There is only one grate, no hidden one, and the seller said this is exactly as he bought it new, minus some firebricks.
Who did you buy the stove from?

 
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Post by uggabugga » Mon. Nov. 18, 2013 4:43 pm

oliver power wrote:Who did you buy the stove from?
A guy in Conesus. Probably shouldn't mention anyone by name but he bought it new.

 
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Post by uggabugga » Mon. Nov. 18, 2013 4:43 pm

Fire375 wrote:There is no back grate. That is the way it was designed to direct the coal to the grate. The piece of steel sits at an slant and then the firebricks lay on the steel. You will need 4 full brick and then you will have to cut one to finish the rest. There will also be 2 brick laid on edge in the front right beneath the door opening.
Thank you, this is exactly the information I was looking for.

 
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Post by oliver power » Mon. Nov. 18, 2013 7:18 pm

uggabugga wrote:
oliver power wrote:Who did you buy the stove from?
A guy in Conesus. Probably shouldn't mention anyone by name but he bought it new.
The Conesus town line road is about a mile and one half from me. I know lots of people in the area. I'm just curious, but understand. I may sell my 30-95 next year. My shop will be double the size when completed. I'll most likely need a bigger stove. I could simply buy another 50-93. The 50-93 is a proven winner. Can't go wrong with a 50-93. However, I think I'd like to play with a DS Machine stove. One with circulator tubes. It'd be like having a new toy. We'll see. Oliver


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