Cookin' with coal

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Photog200 On: Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:37 pm

Good ole coal cooked a lot of food yesterday! Made dinner rolls & sausage bread in the oven, cooked potatoes & shrimp on top. The breads were all homemade and turned out pretty well, if I do say so myself. :lol:

I hope everyone had a really nice Thanksgiving and a nice day of Black Friday shopping today.
Randy
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base heater & Geneva Oak Andes #517
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:31 pm

Sounds great Randy. Your really getting the hang of that thing !

Wish I had cooked anything worthy of reporting on. The girl friend is away visiting family and I'm catching up on projects, so it's back to my usual weekly slop !

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
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Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Photog200 On: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:19 am

Ok, follow up on the oven seams that needed sealing. After I sealed up the seams in the oven the stove seemed to work much better and I got hotter temps in the oven. However, that did not seem to last, not sure if it was just better draft that day or what. On Thanksgiving Day when I was cooking I could not get a good draft to get the oven over 300° again. After closer inspection, I found where I cemented all around the top and bottom where they meet the sides...cement had broken loose. Of course I had used Rutland cement as that was before I heard not to use it. It did not even last a year! I bought this stove in January of last year and that is when I cemented the seams. I was in the garage at 6:00 am this morning cementing the seams with Hearthstone cement. It has fibers in it and says it has good adhesion properties to metal. It is out there setting now and in about an hour I will be able to start a small fire to cure it. I sure hope this takes care of the problem. I am pretty sure I am going to have to tear everything out of the firebox too and do all of those seams as I used Rutland in there as well. Keep your fingers crossed...
Randy
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base heater & Geneva Oak Andes #517
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:31 am

After reading what your results have been, I took a closer look at the seams in my oven. It's suffering from gapatosis everywhere ! And, I don't see any evidence of a sealer either. :(

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Photog200 On: Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:27 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:After reading what your results have been, I took a closer look at the seams in my oven. It's suffering from gapatosis everywhere ! And, I don't see any evidence of a sealer either. :(

Paul

Paul, The seams I was talking about were all around the outside perimeter of the stove at the top and bottom. I sealed every crack I found...not sure yet if I will have to take everything out of the firebox to check those seams. Those would be next if this does not take care of the problem. The wood fire I have in it right now to cure the cement seems to be much more controlled than it was last night. However, I have my doubts that the cement held up any better in the fire box than it did on the other seams. Will let you know when I put a coal fire in it as coal is much more susceptible to air leaks because it needs the air to come under the grates.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base heater & Geneva Oak Andes #517
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:41 pm

Photog200 wrote:
Sunny Boy wrote:After reading what your results have been, I took a closer look at the seams in my oven. It's suffering from gapatosis everywhere ! And, I don't see any evidence of a sealer either. :(

Paul

Paul, The seams I was talking about were all around the outside perimeter of the stove at the top and bottom. I sealed every crack I found...not sure yet if I will have to take everything out of the firebox to check those seams. Those would be next if this does not take care of the problem. The wood fire I have in it right now to cure the cement seems to be much more controlled than it was last night. However, I have my doubts that the cement held up any better in the fire box than it did on the other seams. Will let you know when I put a coal fire in it as coal is much more susceptible to air leaks because it needs the air to come under the grates.

GAPATOSIS !!? now i have to watch for this disease , :shock: when i look at a stove,thanks for the heads up on this ,any particular signs that really stick out to help identify condition :lol: after submitting this post I'll be able to see if i was smart enough to have figured how to post the smilie faces :D or not :?
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Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Photog200 On: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:12 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:
Photog200 wrote:
Sunny Boy wrote:After reading what your results have been, I took a closer look at the seams in my oven. It's suffering from gapatosis everywhere ! And, I don't see any evidence of a sealer either. :(

Paul

Paul, The seams I was talking about were all around the outside perimeter of the stove at the top and bottom. I sealed every crack I found...not sure yet if I will have to take everything out of the firebox to check those seams. Those would be next if this does not take care of the problem. The wood fire I have in it right now to cure the cement seems to be much more controlled than it was last night. However, I have my doubts that the cement held up any better in the fire box than it did on the other seams. Will let you know when I put a coal fire in it as coal is much more susceptible to air leaks because it needs the air to come under the grates.

GAPATOSIS !!? now i have to watch for this disease , :shock: when i look at a stove,thanks for the heads up on this ,any particular signs that really stick out to help identify condition :lol: after submitting this post I'll be able to see if i was smart enough to have figured how to post the smilie faces :D or not :?

Windy,
You are now a Emoticon pro!
What to look for in condition...with cast iron stoves, where they come together has to be cemented to make them air tight. This cement has to be re-done every few years as it gets brittle and will fall off. When checking condition, check the seams...they will probably need to be re-done. Don't use Rutland cement...I did and already have to do it again not a year later.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base heater & Geneva Oak Andes #517
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:19 pm

And see what is causing the "gapatosis". If it's just loose fasteners and falling out sealer, your good. If it's rust, check carefully, and check EVERY WHERE for cracks !!! :shock:

And if the grates are bad, don't buy it unless you know for certain that you can get grates for it.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:44 am

Got a new, old toaster - 110 years old toaster ! :D

I have an electric toaster, but I can't get it timed to have lightly toasted bread at the same time the eggs are done. The toast is done long before the eggs, and then gets cold.

Plus, it uses electricity, while the stove has plenty of heat for cooking.

I have one of the toast racks for camp fires, but they don't work on the coal stove. I've tried toasting using the wire grilling racks, flat on the stove top, but the bread drops crumbs through onto the stove top, which then burn and stink up the kitchen.

So, I tried a piece of aluminum foil. The two left hand burners are too hot and burn the toast at all the contact points before toasting the rest. Turns out that the middle front burner plate is in the correct heat range for lightly toasted bread when the hotter left hand plate is good for eggs. Now, eggs and toast are done at the same time !

The other part I like is, . . no electricity needed ! :D
Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Photog200 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:37 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:Got a new, old toaster - 110 years old toaster ! :D

I have an electric toaster, but I can't get it timed to have lightly toasted bread at the same time the eggs are done. The toast is done long before the eggs, and then gets cold.

Plus, it uses electricity, while the stove has plenty of heat for cooking.

I have one of the toast racks for camp fires, but they don't work on the coal stove. I've tried toasting using the wire grilling racks, flat on the stove top, but the bread drops crumbs through onto the stove top, which then burn and stink up the kitchen.

So, I tried a piece of aluminum foil. The two left hand burners are too hot and burn the toast at all the contact points before toasting the rest. Turns out that the middle front burner plate is in the correct heat range for lightly toasted bread when the hotter left hand plate is good for eggs. Now, eggs and toast are done at the same time !

The other part I like is, . . no electricity needed ! :D
Paul

I like the new toaster! I just bought one of those toasters that sits on top of the stove but have not tried it yet.

Ok, follow up on my stove work. Sealing the seams on the top and bottom did not seem to make much difference. Yesterday, I tore everything out of the firebox and all of the seams in there needed sealing again too. Now this job took me most of the day. Started a wood fire in it last night and again could not calm the fire down without using the check damper. It was obvious that it was getting air from somewhere...GETTING FRUSTRATED! I sat here last night thinking what changed on this stove that made it start acting like this...then a light bulb went off. Two weeks ago I put rope gaskets around the eyes thinking it would make it more air tight. This morning I was out there wire brushing the gasket cement off where I removed the gaskets. I started a fire an hour ago and now it seems back to normal where I can control the fire without using the check damper. I know that re-cementing the seams will help and will make it more airtight. However, I really would not have guessed that the rope gaskets would have allowed more air to get into the stove. Live and learn I guess...I have not started a coal fire in it yet but that will be the real test.
Randy
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base heater & Geneva Oak Andes #517
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:56 pm

Sunnyboy ,what can't be done with a coal cook stove[img]%20%20[/img]heat,cook,toast,hot water,bake, very interesting. Photog200 ,are you saying that your stove works better without your improvements, works better as designed????? I do love this thread.
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Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:23 pm

:o :nice:
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:40 pm

Yes,i was surprised by your toast info,image didn't work in my original reply, did i mention that i really like this thread???? so far this thread seems to be staying on track,is very down to earth informative,i enjoy that part very much as I'm not a college educated fancy type,I've been accused of being too practical & more interested in how useful is something,rather than how pretty/fancy/elaborate/upper class appealing something is. We will continue to follow both of your stove experiences,until we get our own,.... Too many things taking too many $$$$ rite now,stove purchase will have to wait .... :( however,our education will continue,thanks.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Photog200 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:21 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:Sunnyboy ,what can't be done with a coal cook stove[img]%20%20[/img]heat,cook,toast,hot water,bake, very interesting. Photog200 ,are you saying that your stove works better without your improvements, works better as designed????? I do love this thread.

Hey Windy,
The "improvements" I thought were improvements did not help the situation. I took the rope gaskets off today and there really was not a lot of difference. I still had to use the check damper to cool the wood fire down. (you can see the thermometer in the photo before I used the check damper) I have not tried coal yet but maybe tonight...feel like I am coming down with a cold so I might go take a nap. Hopefully, it will make enough of a difference to have been worth while.

I know this thread is called cooking with coal and I cooked this meal with wood. (made pasta) I cleaned and polished the stove up today and wanted to post a photo showing how nice it looked.
Randy
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Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:32 pm

Photog200,how can coal make one hungry? only when it involves cookin with coal & the pics you guys post,sounds like you need to fire that stove up with coal,heat up a big kettle of chicken noodle soup,eat lots of it ,take a nice warm nap & wake up better.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

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