Cookin' with coal

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: wilsons woodstoves On: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:46 pm

paul congrads You are one of a very few that know of the use of those little holes in the upper back of the oven.You have mastered the black iron range.(small club)
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:37 pm

Thanks Wilson.

Small club is right ! I should have been hit with one. :roll: It took me almost eight years to figure out why those holes are in the back of the oven. :D

Paul
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:57 pm

Carole (sixkids) asked me to post some of her Facebook page pictures of the cooking they have been doing on their newly restored Fairmount range.

They've finally got it hooked up, picked up bags of coal, and they are learning the wonders of cookin' with coal.

Carole will have to fill in more about what's cooking.

I'll start with her son and daughter having their go at using the stove. Justin cooking breakfast with coffee grounds in a bag (Union Army style ?), and Jen cooked chicken/noodle casserole in one of the multitude of cast iron wear Carole has collected.

Don't forget to cover your key boards so your drool doesn't get down in the keys. :D

Enjoy,

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:26 pm

Here's more pix. Carole's cooking and baking this time.
The first is looking into the firebox through the broiler door on the left end of the stove. The second is the oven ready to bake.

I think three and four are homemade pizza ?

And five may be stove-top boiling sap for making maple syrup ?

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:35 pm

Now it's more boiling sap (?) while loaves of bread are rising on the warm back mantel.

Then loaves of white and Italian bread.

And last is some biscuits.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:41 pm

I forgot to show this before. It's the Italian bread rising - again on that back mantel which is the perfect temperature for that.

Next, a white bread loaf being cut open.

Then baking cookies.

And last, I think is baking fish sticks ?

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:47 pm

Then she's baked a bunch of pumpkin pies.

And finally, . . still boiling sap !

If you know anything about making maple syrup, boiling the sap down takes a loooooong time. A coal stove is perfect for that because it's not in a hurry like a wood stove is ! ;)

How'd I do at guessing what's what, Carole ? :D

So, as you can see, in just the couple of weeks they've had the range running, they are getting a lot of use out of what Carole calls, "The real stove", instead of their modern electric stove. And all the while it's helping heat their home.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:36 pm

You guys are making me hungry. Still a great thread. Matt
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Coal Size/Type: Anthracite. Stove and nut size.
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sixkids On: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:16 pm

Thanks a lot Paul! Absolutely wonderful the way that you posted the pictures and gave the details! :D Perfect details!
We use the stove every day for cooking, (the Jenn-Air is getting jealous!). The stove runs all day and night as well. The stove uses about 3/4 of a bag of nut coal in 24 hrs. We did find one day that the stove ran best on wood. (Not too sure why but we were fine with that as well). We were very glad that the dampers all work the way that they are suppose to and the chimney also works very well. We completed the install of the stove exactly 2 weeks ago today. :D We couldn't be happier with the warm heat and the wonderful way to cook!
We have a porch swing in our kitchen .... long story!! ...I bought a porch swing and the man who made it had used polyurethatne on it the day before we picked it up. It was still tacky and it was raining outside. We brought it home and hung it up where my children's swings used to hang for use in the winter. (In the kitchen! :) ). It hung there for a couple weeks and we, and any company, enjoyed it there so much that it stayed! (No one ever said I was conventional!!) .... anyway ... we sit on the swing and read, or play on our laptops basking in the warmth of the cook stove sometimes with the oven door open for extra warmth. (I will post a picture that if Paul views on FB, he might be kind enough to repost here). Thanks Paul!
Carole and the Crew
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:31 am

Carole,

Your very welcome. I knew that you and the family would get a lot of enjoyment out of that range.

Could it have been a warm day that it did better on wood ? Wood will burn hotter and faster in the range. On warm days it reaches high cooking heat temperatures more easily than coal. You may find that switching to wood in the warmer months works out better for you. I did that when I first got my range. Since then, by digging through the coal bin for the larger pieces, I've learned how to keep the range going for all our cooking/baking needs. Even on the few days when it jumps up into the 70's. So I don't bother with wood anymore. And, now that I have a source of stove coal, it will be even easier to keep running when (if) it warms up outside.

Sounds like your right on target for coal use.
About 30 pounds of nut coal a day is what I average in my stove - that's one, good-sized coal bucket ( scuttle or hod) full. I use that figure when calculating how much coal to order for the season, and it has worked well over the past eight years I've been using this range. I try to order an extra ton each year, just in case. This winter being so cold that has helped too. Otherwise I have to buy coal at a higher price late in the season.


If you haven't read it that far, in that PDF file book on operating ranges that I sent you, it mentions that for the average family of six's daily cooking needs, if properly operated, a range will use 33 pounds of coal a day.

I'll look for and post those pictures.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:55 am

Here's a meal I forgot to post pix of, . . and it's one of my favorites.

Like my girl friend does, Carole makes mac & cheese from scratch. Since I know they have a milk cow I assume the milk is home-grown ? And I know they make cheese, so that might be what was used in this too ?

As I told Carole she and my Melissa are sisters from different mothers. They both like cooking either over an open wood fire, or antique stoves, and making meals from scratch. Their passion for it comes through with great meals.

The last picture is the indoor swing Carole mentioned. A nice modern version of the old high-backed bench for sitting in front of a kitchen cooking fireplace.

And that tea kettle looks very familiar. . . . :D

Thank you to Carole and family for letting us see these pictures of more cooking being done on an antique wood/coal range.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sixkids On: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:54 am

Thanks Paul for posting and your thoughts! We do have our Jersey milk cow and use her milk and our cheese too! I'm glad my kindred sister Melissa enjoys making meals from scratch as much as I do. :D Wish we lived closer to each other.
Thanks for also posting the swing picture. (It's where I am sitting right now typing on my laptop. :) )
I cleaned our stove this morning while the rest of the family was in the barn doing chores. I practically had to beat them off with a stick not to restart the fire in the stove before they left!! Not sure why at a balmy 9 degrees F. outside that they wanted the stove heat!! :) Do your lids over the firebox look red on the underside? I'm thinking that the black stove paint has been burned off ... is it rust? Do you repaint or do anything to the under part of the lids? Since I had the cook top left machined instead of painted, I could stove black it ..or just keep oiling it with salad oil as I have been. ( I haven't been doing anything to the underside of the lids.)
Husband, Roger is building a fire in the stove as we 'speak'.
I only have one problem with the stove .... which is the same problem that I have when the coals are red and the campfire has burned down to the hot coals ..... I HAVE to cook something!! The hot stove, or the red coals of the campfire call out to me to use them for cooking!! :yes: I think I will soon have to measure my stove not in how many pounds of coal it uses per day , but how many pounds we gain per day!! :D
Thanks!
Carole
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:57 am

Looking at the last picture of the stove and swing and log cabin to boot WOW! You cut your slice from a piece of heaven there!
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sixkids On: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:08 pm

I TOTALLY agree ... add that to a loving husband and six WONDERFUL children, (3 girls, 3 boys), and great friends on this website ....what more could I ever ask for!! We are TRULY Blessed. :D
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:29 pm

Yes, indeed - heaven ! ;)

My stove covers over the firebox stay off-white on the undersides from the very slight coal ash that coats them.

What you may be seeing is "rust glaze" forming. It's a kind of rust that is very hard and smooth - unlike the lighter, coarser orangey-red rust seen caused by being left out in the weather. It forms on cast iron that is exposed to high heat for a long time. The longer the exposer, the tougher it gets.

The color of that rust glaze can be affected by the alloy mix in the cast iron and where the cast iron came from and how it was processed. Most people think that all cast iron is the same, but it varies alot. The covers on the Rathbone and Sard Acorn range that the girl friend grew up with were orange - top and bottoms. For a long time, I thought that odd color was done intentionally, but after talking with her father about it, it was just the type of cast iron used by R&S.

Rust on cast iron that's left outdoors comes off easily with sandblasting, wire brushes sanding, etc.. However, the rust glaze formed by heat is VERY tough to blast through. And forget about getting it off with a wire brush. Your hand will fall off first ! :shock:

Yeah, these coal ranges are nice for keeping warm, but bad for the waist line ! :D

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

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