Cookin' with coal

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:39 am

Photog200 wrote:On another quick note, Pam also comes in a formula for BBQ grills. I has an even higher temp smoking point. I think I will give that one a try.

Randy



Let us know how well it does.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:35 am

I just ran a test with just pure vegetable oil.

I noticed the regular version of Pam says it has canola oil. Rather than add another type oil to the test, I used a local super market's house brand that says it's pure vegetable oil.

(Edited to add. The back of the bottle says that the only ingredient is Soybean oil. )

I swapped one of the ash-white covers from over the firebox to the back right cover position. Then let it cool down from the 600 + degrees of over the firebox to the low 200 degrees the back right cover normally runs.

When that cover's temp dropped into the low 200's, I wire-wheeled it to bare metal and gave it a generous coating of the pure vegetable oil. Then I wiped off all excess with a dry paper towel.

Swapped the freshly oiled cover back over the fire and waited to see what happened.

Using my IR gun to follow the surface temperature rise, as it got up close to 600 degrees, the surface started to lose it's wet-look and took on more of the metallic shine of a fresh stove polished surface.

At no point could I see any smoke. However, I could just detect the slight smell of burning oil. Far less strong than the olive oil smell, and not as objectionable either.

Now, to see how well it lasts in use.

The pictures below show how the wire-wheeled and pure vegetable oil treated cover looked at the start of heating over the firebox. Then, in the second picture, the front middle cover that has only been stove polished for comparison. In the third picture, what the vegetable oiled cover looks like a few minutes after hitting 600 degrees in the hottest part - the lower right quadrant of the cover.

Notice how in picture three, that lower right quadrant is looking like the stove polished cover in the second picture.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sixkids On: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:36 am

The pans are on sale, (but watch the shipping fee and tax). Add "MORE" as the code and save additional 15% at Macy's sale now ....

http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/lodg ... Type=PDPZ1

12" pan all totaled at end is $50.48
(tax and shipping included - shipping $9.95 tax to us - $2.29 cost of 12" pan after Code added - $38.24).
I might be tempted if the total cost would have been $38.24, but at $50.48, I'll have to think about it. Probably would love it ..but being retired with a 19 year old and a 21 year old yet to put through college I have to pinch every penny until it squeals!! :D
Carole
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sixkids On: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:39 am

Being an Amazon Prime member I can get the 12" pan sent free ..except for the $41.55 price tag .....
The bottom of the 12" pan measures 9 1/4 " and although reviews say that people really like the pan they have been cautioning as the pans tend to warp if left on hot stove.
:)
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:52 am

Sixkids wrote:Being an Amazon Prime member I can get the 12" pan sent free ..except for the $41.55 price tag .....
The bottom of the 12" pan measures 9 1/4 " and although reviews say that people really like the pan they have been cautioning as the pans tend to warp if left on hot stove.
:)



Guess I can save some money too. I already have a few of those "wobble" pans ! :D

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:29 pm

Sixkids wrote:Being an Amazon Prime member I can get the 12" pan sent free ..except for the $41.55 price tag .....
The bottom of the 12" pan measures 9 1/4 " and although reviews say that people really like the pan they have been cautioning as the pans tend to warp if left on hot stove.
:)


For that kind of money this spring and summer cruise flea markets garage sales and estate sales for a real one that won't warp. Maybe someone here can supply an idea about how much a real coal stove cook pan weighs so you know if something has enough metal in it to not fail.

No matter how bad a used one looks 5 minutes with a sand blaster and brand new again!
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sixkids On: Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:54 pm

I have enough cast iron coming out of my ears already that I look pretty funny!!! :D I didn't know if there were older pans built like the Carbon Steel Lodge pans or not ... I do have one Cuisinart Hard Anodized Cookware, 8" frying pan that I bought at Salvation Army for $3 recently that I absolutely LOVE!!! I use it on the wood/coal cookstove and LOVE it. It is non-stick, but the kind that doesn't seem to flake off at all. It's funny but even when I use it right over the firebox the metal handle stays cool enough to handle! ??
This is one like what I bought ...
https://www.cuisinart.com/products/cook ... 22-20.html
Carole
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:12 pm

Melissa got one of those non-stick pans advertised on TV. The green one they swish rocks around in to show how tough it is.

I had my doubts after only seeing the commercial, but so far, it's every bit as non-stick as the best Teflon ones I've ever seen. And, it will not scratch as easily as Teflon. Very tough surface.

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Photog200 On: Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:11 pm

Sixkids wrote:The pans are on sale, (but watch the shipping fee and tax). Add "MORE" as the code and save additional 15% at Macy's sale now ....

http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/lodg ... Type=PDPZ1

12" pan all totaled at end is $50.48
(tax and shipping included - shipping $9.95 tax to us - $2.29 cost of 12" pan after Code added - $38.24).
I might be tempted if the total cost would have been $38.24, but at $50.48, I'll have to think about it. Probably would love it ..but being retired with a 19 year old and a 21 year old yet to put through college I have to pinch every penny until it squeals!! :D
Carole

That is how much it was when I bought it at Gander Mountain too.

Randy
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, & Kineo #15 base heater
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Photog200 On: Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:18 pm

Sixkids wrote:Being an Amazon Prime member I can get the 12" pan sent free ..except for the $41.55 price tag .....
The bottom of the 12" pan measures 9 1/4 " and although reviews say that people really like the pan they have been cautioning as the pans tend to warp if left on hot stove.
:)

I had not seen any reviews like that or I might have balked at buying it. As time goes by, I will let you know how it goes.

Randy
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, & Kineo #15 base heater
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:46 pm

Well, after a warm weekend that got up to 80 and getting a chance to experiment with just how slow the range will run without going out, we're back to cold. Plugging up the many little air leaks around the oven has not only helped during cold weather, but given greater control during warm weather too.

With about a 50/50 mix of stove and nut coal, the oven got hotter than when it's just running on nut coal. So, the fiancée decided to make the most of all that cooking heat and bake chicken in rice.

Enjoy.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: PJT On: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:24 pm

yum :)
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Baseburners & Antiques: Magee Royal Oak; Glenwood Modern Oak 116
Other Heating: propane

Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: wilsons woodstoves On: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:14 pm

I love chicken and rice .did you have to take the lid off the pan to brown It? I noticed your sunny does not have the square clean out in the bottom of the oven. I have a #2 sunny brick in the mould under my sunny, when It dries enough I will bake It for a while, then ship them out to you. Baking brick gives new meaning to cooking with coal . Have a nice easter. Wilson
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sixkids On: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:33 pm

Yummy Paul! She sure can cook! :)
Carole
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Re: Cookin' with coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:28 am

Sixkids wrote:Yummy Paul! She sure can cook! :)
Okay, now you have peaked my interest. What is a baking brick and how is it used? :?
I have heard that if your oven gets too hot and you would like to cool it down quickly, (like for starting a pie out at a higher temperature for about 15 mins. then using a cooler oven to continue baking), that you add a brick, or two, to the oven and it will absorb the heat to cool the oven quicker.
I also know that with clay bakers your food is more moist due to soaking the clay baker in water before using it to bake the food.
Are either of these the reason for the baking brick?
Carole


When I'm baking, . . or Wilson's doing the baking ? :D

When I bake, just about everything turns into a "brick". :D What Wilson is "baking" is a brick that forms one of the firebox liners for my Sunny. The firebox is lined with six molded bricks that interlock.

Many years ago Wilson bought up the wooden fire brick molds from a company that made new fire bricks for ranges. He found the ones that are supposed to fit my Sunny and is making some test bricks.

The cast originals in my Sunny are rather beat up after 111 years. Rather than just hammer refractory cement into the firebox as many restorers do, I wanted to be able to remove the bricks for maintenance. And, if I ever want to use wood, to be able to remove the bricks and put cast iron liners in giving more room for wood - as the stove was designed to do.

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

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