leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: morrison250r On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:42 pm

I plan to buy a coal stove. It must be a top vent. I live in Maine and am heating a camp. it has a connected garage, about 1200 sp, ft., with a fisher mama bear wood stove. Above the garage is two bedrooms and two bathrooms. the garage and upstairs heat fine in the weather we've had, so far. The main part of the camp stays about 55f. i've narrowed it down between the leisure line ponoco or the harman magnum stocker.
The harman-advantges-hot air set jacket included
-looks much better to the eyes
-seems to be better quality but im not certain-

ponoco advantges -cost a little less
hopper holds 200 lbs of coal and more importantly the ash pan must hold twice the ash.
What's everyone's opinion? I've read that some people the coal-trol on the harmon. why?
morrison250r
 

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:07 pm

I too wanted a Harman. I just get this funny feeling they are getting away from coal stokers, they dropped the VF3000 stoker boiler.
2001Sierra
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90 Chimney vent
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker 90 Chimney Vent

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: maurizziot On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:28 pm

I would go with Liesure line. The service is great. My stove has been rock solid. Every one in the house hold would never give it up. I have had mine for 7 years, no problems at all. Simplicity in the feed grate system, and the coal trol has been awesome.
maurizziot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure line Coal Stove
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer rear vent

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Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: maurizziot On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:28 pm

I would go with Liesure line. The service is great. My stove has been rock solid. Every one in the house hold would never give it up. I have had mine for 7 years, no problems at all. Simplicity in the feed grate system, and the coal trol has been awesome.
maurizziot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure line Coal Stove
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer rear vent

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:32 pm

Oh,Christ ! This oughta honestly take off like a rocket ! To be honest with you,it's your cash. See both units in action. Check out all the features that make your heating needs a reality. Check out spare parts availability and your Dealer's track record. Read past Topics here,and get through the fighting and bickering over the units Manufacturer and arrive at your conclusion. Warning-The Leisure Line Guys,I mean the Owners,are here and present to talk the facts with you and to back their Product that's made here with as many U.S. manufactured components that can be provided by a completely U.S. owned and sweat-equity financed Company. The other guys,for as large as they are,have zero Manufacturer's presence on this Board. Small Stuff to some,Major to others. Find your fit,and fall in. Glad you're on the Coal ! ;)
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni !

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:42 pm

If you LIKE to support China & Mexico and you DONT mind paying $4,000 for spare parts in years to come and you CARE LESS about having any customer support than you should definitely go with Harmon!

If however you wish to support USA, you want extremely reasonable priced spare parts & honorable warranties, and you appreciate a company that gives A++ customer support & service than you should go with Leisure Line!
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: morrison250r On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:52 pm

in also considering the hyfire II as i understand that it can be run with only one burner, if needed. How is the other burner ignited? if you are only using one and it's capacity is maxed out, will the other some online? how about effiency of the three stoves i have listed? the hyfire II vs ponoco vs mag stocker? dose the hyfire give up anything in terms of effiency and lower firings below 75k?
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Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: jpen1 On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:02 pm

The Hyfire II won't give up a thing at the lower firing rates as far as efficiency is concerned. Think of it this way the hyfire has a larger surface area stove body which allows it to transfer more heat to the room. So in al actuality it will have a higher efficiency at lower firing rates than the other 2 stoves. You can light the other burner by transferring some lit coal on to the other grate and turning on the combustion fan, cover with a layer of coal and instant coal fire.
jpen1
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: 110 Boiler

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:12 pm

now your adding the Hyfire to the mix.... now its a no brainer.... Hyfire crushes those other two! optional hot air jackets...the new silent blowers... etc... Hyfire hands down! I would assume its also a lot more money than the other 2 for sure (anyone know the price of a Hyfire?)... if its within $1k of the others and i had a house that was over 2000sq' or had fha system already the hyfire is hard to beat...

"I've read that some people the coal-trol on the harmon. why?" ... answer because Harmon's Chinese electronics with flashy buttons, lights, camara's,etc. suck! (sorry to beat around the bush on that :lol: )
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: lewis On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:20 pm

dcrane wrote:If you LIKE to support China & Mexico


When you start an answer to a question like this with an opening statement that you repeat over and over it should be considered nothing more than a Rant or a personal issue. :?:

The LL Co. Is a small operation with a nice product. Harman is a big company with a nice product.

Harmans ability to give you the choice of heating by Room temp or Stove temp and the ESP technology might make it the choice for your application. The Harman is also the most appealing to the eye.
lewis
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Old Model Magnum

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:27 pm

Nice try at de-sensitizing the origin facts with some lil' 'ol progressive "don't worry about where it comes from" technology. Sounds like you have your own rant or personal problem. There are those of us that support someone who's heavily involved here at the very Board that You have come to for no-cost information and advice. Touch a nerve? Nope,but I wish more of you would look at the facts. No one ever faces the facts that the other guys have zero presence here,by choice......That's progressive 'fer 'ya !
Hambden Bob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni !

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: morrison250r On: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:16 pm

the ponoco is 2900 and the hyfire II and the mag stocker is 3500. the hyfire had two feed motors but only one controller, correct? whats the advantage of having a constant stove temp with a fluctuating room temp? ;)
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Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:08 am

What was your LL Dealers response to your question ? If not satisfied with his answer,pm Mathaus or Flyer5 directly and ask.
Hambden Bob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni !

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:15 am

Leisure Line or Harman? That is a no-brainer. ;)
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: leisure line ponoco or harman mag stocker?

PostBy: lewis On: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:39 am

Hambden Bob wrote:Nice try at de-sensitizing the origin facts with some lil' 'ol progressive "don't worry about where it comes from" technology. Sounds like you have your own rant or personal problem. There are those of us that support someone who's heavily involved here at the very Board that You have come to for no-cost information and advice. Touch a nerve? Nope,but I wish more of you would look at the facts. No one ever faces the facts that the other guys have zero presence here,by choice......That's progressive 'fer 'ya !


Thanks for reading my post, Let's support the industry.

Bashing certain brands won't help anything. If you like a certain brand of Stove just say it without casting dispersions on the other manufacturers. Last I looked Alaska, Reading, Hitzer etc. do not have a presence here either but I'm sure they have a solid product or they wouldn't exist in a niche market like home coal burning.

I try to appreciate what manufacturers do. Guys like LL Co. who put their personal touch on service and the chance they took to buy the company and Harman for linking to a corporate partner to allow the brand to exist innovate and continue to supply a product for those of us that use Anthracite.
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Stove/Furnace Model: Old Model Magnum

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