Might get out....

Re: Might get out....

PostBy: ASHDUMP On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:26 pm

The largest gas bill I had last year was $330. My house is 2401sf so I can't complain. Average winter months would run about $200.

I just started burning coal this year an only on the weekends.... nat gas is a glorious thing.....
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404
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PostBy: JohnB On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:45 pm

What's considered cheap for natural gas. I was quoted $2.72 gallon for propane this week but that was for a 120 gallon tank. I would think the price would be less for a larger tank refill.
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PostBy: skobydog On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:05 pm

If I was able to get Nat Gas where I lived I'd probably just go with that. I'll bet any money though I'd be "cheaping out" and have the 'stat on 68 degrees.

With coal I'm averaging an toasty 74 degrees and not thinking twice about it. ;)
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PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:10 pm

JohnB wrote:What's considered cheap for natural gas. I was quoted $2.72 gallon for propane this week but that was for a 120 gallon tank. I would think the price would be less for a larger tank refill.


Don't know about NG, but propane down this way is about $2 / gal for refilling a 1k gal tank that we own. If we leased it the price would be about $2.60 depending on who we leased the tank from.
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PostBy: Carbon12 On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:11 pm

I've read that with the current glut of natural gas, it's cheaper than coal,......even if you live next to the mine. Emphasis on current glut. Fuel oil used to be cheap too. When I was selling it back in 1998 I had customers complain that I raised the price to 79.9 cents/ Gallon. Some refused to pay that much. What they didn't understand was my margin decreased as the Rack Price increased. The higher the price went, the less per gallon I was earning. I was trying NOT to pass the entire price increase on to my customers,.......not all at once, anyway.
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PostBy: dustyashpan On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:16 pm

JohnB wrote:What's considered cheap for natural gas. I was quoted $2.72 gallon for propane this week but that was for a 120 gallon tank. I would think the price would be less for a larger tank refill.


dunno gal. price, looked at Mom's heating bills today, 3 months last winter Dec Jan Fed were 190, 240, 260 a month nat gas, includes hot water heater. big ranch home. I dish $120 month for coal. if coal spiked 2x its no win. entry fee is new high eff. gas boiler install. she cut heat bills from 500-$1000 month with old oil boiler. that thing would bankrupt Bill Gates.
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PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:36 pm

We're well over $3.00 a gallon for propane (LP) around here. And around $4.00 a gallon for fuel oil. Plugged those numbers into a fuel calculator and that comes out as propane is more expensive than fuel oil.

And coal would have to triple in price to cost more than fuel oil here.

I'm only about a 15 minute drive from at least a half dozen gas wells ! :mad:

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
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PostBy: ASHDUMP On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:39 pm

Oil up here in eastern MA is around $3.80/$4gal. Natgas is waaaaay cheaper.
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PostBy: Vangellis On: Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:46 am

I'm watching my neighbors house while she is away and she got a delivery of oil today. $3.61 a gallon.

My "supplemental" heat is electric baseboard or space heaters. Usually use this with wood in the shoulder months.
Also when it gets down to about 5 degrees or less, we may put some electric on to just take an edge off.
Electric to me seems to be more reasonable the last couple years than it was, but nothing blankets you in warmth
like the coal.



Kevin
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PostBy: JohnB On: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:49 am

I haven't tried to heat my house with oil in decades & I don't even consider that an option due to the cost. Same for Propane & electric. Living in the country natural gas isn't available. Cheapest fuel around here to keep us toasty is wood followed by coal. Coal wins out because it's a LOT less work but if coal prices shot up or it became unavailable I'd be back burning wood. Our supplemental heat is a blanket.
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PostBy: Bootstrap On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:42 am

I dont live in a cramped city but its a residential area.
For now we have left the stove in the basement dormant. Been using the natural gas furnace and the wood stove in the living room.
I dont have to harvest trees or really do much cutting. One of my sources is a guy in town who does tree work on the side. He logs up the wood for me.
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PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:58 am

I'm in a very small village out in the country. We have cheap electric so a lot of house have converted over to electric boilers tied into their old oil burners. I added an electric plenum heater to my furnace and just that cut my heating bills more then half.

But with all the wood lands around here, wood is plentiful and is the cheapest fuel source, closely followed by electric, and then that, closely followed by coal. Oil and propane are waaaayyy more expensive.

However, knowing someone who can supply free wood, or very low cost wood, and telling others about it is dangerous, . . . you might get run over in the stampede ! :D

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
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PostBy: Photog200 On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:41 am

My alternative heat source is electric baseboard. Even if coal was more expensive than electric I would still use it. I just retired from an electric / gas utility company and the way this company treats its employees has become a disgrace. Not just employees, it has been treating customers badly as well. It is not like the original company I started working with 32 years ago! If I had a wood lot, I would probably still burn wood during the shoulder months. But since I was buying my wood, coal is not much more expensive and I get a lot more BTU's out of it with less work. Bring on the cold, I have lots of coal!

Randy
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PostBy: mmcoal On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:16 am

I had a propane delivery a couple of months ago and it was $4.06/gal. I only use it for the kitchen stove and hot water. I couldn't even imagine what it would cost to heat my house with propane.
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PostBy: JohnB On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:42 am

You always pay a much higher price for Propane when you are just using it for cooking & hot water. On top of that they hit you with a tank rental fee every 6 months around here. One of the reasons we switched to an Induction cook stove when the old gas stove was shot was to lose the propane tank on the house. I own the 100 gallon tank that feeds the Hot Dawg heaters in my 3 shop buildings but they see very occasional use. One fill is good for 4-5 years.
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