Hitzer 50-93 Install
- freetown fred
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If you're 1/2 way up the fire brick with hot coal,just slowly keep adding coal till ya get to the bottom of the hopper--then fill the hopper--leave your air vents open for awhile-- probably around 5 minutes after you fill the hopper--then leave ash door vents about 1/16 open & back flab around 1/2 inch gap--keep an eye on her--maybe in 15 minutes or so--just leave a crack with the back flap--now you're gonna have to play w/ back flap till you get her dialed in as to how much heat you need--MPD should be closed about now
- skobydog
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Left the house for 30 minutes and stove pipe temp shot up to 500 degrees with the stove temperature also close to 500. The thermometer is the probe type. I shut all dampers and will try to open up again after a little cooling. I only had the flapper open appr 1/2 in. I'll try again after she cools down a bit.freetown fred wrote:If you're 1/2 way up the fire brick with hot coal,just slowly keep adding coal till ya get to the bottom of the hopper--then fill the hopper--leave your air vents open for awhile-- probably around 5 minutes after you fill the hopper--then leave ash door vents about 1/16 open & back flab around 1/2 inch gap--keep an eye on her--maybe in 15 minutes or so--just leave a crack with the back flap--now you're gonna have to play w/ back flap till you get her dialed in as to how much heat you need--MPD should be closed about now
- freetown fred
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Did you fill the whole stove, including the hopper? You need to do that
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Not completely but close.freetown fred wrote:Did you fill the whole stove, including the hopper? You need to do that
Temp is back down and I think I may have the chain thing a little more dialed in. I'm staying home for the rest of the day until I get this dialed in.
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sd, don't do close--fill it:)
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Gotcha,freetown fred wrote:sd, don't do close--fill it:)
Temps are getting better. I think I may had the back damper open too much. I have good temps now so I'll report back in an hour or two (unless something bad happens ).
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- freetown fred
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Nice, now you're at the dialing in stage--ya done real good so far:)
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I know you're not a temp guy but the stove is 350 with a flue temp of 200.freetown fred wrote:Nice, now you're at the dialing in stage--ya done real good so far:)
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That's real good for today--I said I don't use one ;)
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So far I am impressed. This is my first experience with coal. I keep thinking of the commercial "set it and forget it".
I was concerned about my pipe temperatures but I have probe thermometer and according to all of the posts I've seen my thermometer would reading higher vs a magnet type.
The stove has been maintaining it's temp at 400 degrees (just dialed her down it's 82 inside now). I'm not sure where I set the chain but it seems ok right now, the stove runs about 400 degrees at 9.5 setting. Front damper and manual damper are closed.
I may need to reseal the front glass somewhere down the road, I noticed ghost-like flames coming from around the glass on the inside of the stove when it was 500 degrees earlier .
How will I expect to fill the hopper during mid winter cold spells?
I was concerned about my pipe temperatures but I have probe thermometer and according to all of the posts I've seen my thermometer would reading higher vs a magnet type.
The stove has been maintaining it's temp at 400 degrees (just dialed her down it's 82 inside now). I'm not sure where I set the chain but it seems ok right now, the stove runs about 400 degrees at 9.5 setting. Front damper and manual damper are closed.
I may need to reseal the front glass somewhere down the road, I noticed ghost-like flames coming from around the glass on the inside of the stove when it was 500 degrees earlier .
How will I expect to fill the hopper during mid winter cold spells?
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Every 12 hrs--I crack open ash door--give her 6 or so good quick jerks showing a good line of red ashes in the pan--close the ash door -- open MPD--slowly open hopper door & top off--close hopper door SLOWLY but real solid (make no lil coal kernels get where that door closes) close MPD & your set for another 12 hrs--if you got a coal hod (bucket) it works well
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I may need to reseal the front glass somewhere down the road, I noticed ghost-like flames coming from around the glass on the inside of the stove when it was 500 degrees earlier .
Those are what is called "dancing ladies" or "dancing blue ladies" do a search and you will find a lot of stuff. Having your front glass leak a little air will not make your stove run hotter as it is over fire air. Anthracite burns from under fire air. At some point change the gasket but if your stove is running good its not an emergency.
When you have those ghosts coming out of your coal bed, if they are just slowly going up, dancing, you have about the right draft. if they are going straight up you may need to close your manual pipe damper more to slow down the burn. You are wasting heat if they goes straight up.
Its a learning process. You will learn. Keep a pail of sand or ashes nearby in case of a serious over fire to put on the coal and make sure you have working CO detectors.
I may need to reseal the front glass somewhere down the road, I noticed ghost-like flames coming from around the glass on the inside of the stove when it was 500 degrees earlier .
Those are what is called "dancing ladies" or "dancing blue ladies" do a search and you will find a lot of stuff. Having your front glass leak a little air will not make your stove run hotter as it is over fire air. Anthracite burns from under fire air. At some point change the gasket but if your stove is running good its not an emergency.
When you have those ghosts coming out of your coal bed, if they are just slowly going up, dancing, you have about the right draft. if they are going straight up you may need to close your manual pipe damper more to slow down the burn. You are wasting heat if they goes straight up.
Its a learning process. You will learn. Keep a pail of sand or ashes nearby in case of a serious over fire to put on the coal and make sure you have working CO detectors.
- skobydog
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That was my next question, the sequence of shaking/refiling. I'm the type who needs to do something a couple of times before I remember it. Thanks Fredfreetown fred wrote:Every 12 hrs--I crack open ash door--give her 6 or so good quick jerks showing a good line of red ashes in the pan--close the ash door -- open MPD--slowly open hopper door & top off--close hopper door SLOWLY but real solid (make no lil coal kernels get where that door closes) close MPD & your set for another 12 hrs--if you got a coal hod (bucket) it works well
Ok, I'm holding off on the gasket because otherwise the stove seems to be doing well and thanks for the tip on having sand nearby, that's a cheap easy solution to a potential catastrophe.warminmn wrote:skobydog wrote:
I may need to reseal the front glass somewhere down the road, I noticed ghost-like flames coming from around the glass on the inside of the stove when it was 500 degrees earlier .
Those are what is called "dancing ladies" or "dancing blue ladies" do a search and you will find a lot of stuff. Having your front glass leak a little air will not make your stove run hotter as it is over fire air. Anthracite burns from under fire air. At some point change the gasket but if your stove is running good its not an emergency.
When you have those ghosts coming out of your coal bed, if they are just slowly going up, dancing, you have about the right draft. if they are going straight up you may need to close your manual pipe damper more to slow down the burn. You are wasting heat if they goes straight up.
Its a learning process. You will learn. Keep a pail of sand or ashes nearby in case of a serious over fire to put on the coal and make sure you have working CO detectors.
I currently only have one CO detector and it's hardwired. I was thinking of adding 2 additional battery operated ones. Rather than thinking about it I may just go out now and get them.
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Do you guys have/run the optional fan? I had a wood stove with one and it was useless. With this stove it really throws the heat even with low stove temps.