worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: BPatrick On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:55 pm

To add to Wills post the inner barrel also adds to the radiating surface and increases the fire pot temps. Also adding the air passages of all inner barrel adds to the 12'. Cc how many 100+ harman whatever your stove is are there out there.
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Baseburners & Antiques: 2 Crawford 40 Baseheaters
Coal Size/Type: Stove Coal
Other Heating: Herald Oak No. 18

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:50 am

Few people understand how beneficial pre heating primary air to a high degree is in getting the most complete combustion out of just about any fuel.

With CC's sometimes examples of auto engines, what he leaves out is they have been designed to preheat intake air for well over 100 years to maximize efficiency.

His muscle car era examples may be powerful, but they couldn't get any farther past a gas station then the early Fords he scorns and they'll use a lot more fuel just getting the same distance.

Flawed examples never bolster a point of view.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:11 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:Few people understand how beneficial pre heating primary air to a high degree is in getting the most complete combustion out of just about any fuel.

With CC's sometimes examples of auto engines, what he leaves out is they have been designed to preheat intake air for well over 100 years to maximize efficiency.

His muscle car era examples may be powerful, but they couldn't get any farther past a gas station then the early Fords he scorns and they'll use a lot more fuel just getting the same distance.

Flawed examples never bolster a point of view.

Paul


agreed, LSfarm sayed most things pretty well previously... the burn is more efficient, the ash is more like fine powder (theirs a reason the ash is such a fine powder in a Glenwood Baseheater), the temps can be brought down farther for longer duration, the temps can brought up higher with less coal use... their are some draw backs no doubt though! I just have not heard CC speak of them to much :( One major draw back as with any cemented/screwed/bolted stove you need to re assemble them every 10-40 years. obviously room size/hearth/firebox height could be a major drawback to running one of these pieces of engineered art. the fact is this main thread is simply a lot of un truth and im glad we have plenty of folks who recognize it and give their thoughts.... id prefer it just be locked or deleted because its just plain bad information as a worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner. the only similarities of a modern box coal stove and an antique base burner are they both burn coal... plenty of advantages and disadvantages of both as ive briefly touched on but if we were to rely on this title thread we might as well say that any and all coal burning stoves are "worthwhile" alternatives to antique base burners :mad:
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Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:40 pm

To all.

I don't think CoalCracker is with us anymore. (At least here on NEPA.) He seems to have gone off to "haunt" or "troll" someplace else.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: 2014 Chubby Prototype
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford #2 Base Heater
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Anthracite

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: Lightning On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:46 pm

ONEDOLLAR wrote:To all.

I don't think CoalCracker is with us anymore. (At least here on NEPA.) He seems to have gone off to "haunt" or "troll" someplace else.


That's odd, the "last visited" date is blank on his profile...

Actually, I'm wondering if he came back as somebody else :shock:
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut Size / White Ash

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:52 pm

[quote="Lightning"][quote="ONEDOLLAR"]To all.

I don't think CoalCracker is with us anymore. (At least here on NEPA.) He seems to have gone off to "haunt" or "troll" someplace else.[/quote]

That's odd, the "last visited" date is blank on his profile...

Actually, I'm wondering if he came back as somebody else :shock:[/quote]

:shock: :shock: :lol: I am laughing my ass off and this is not contributing to this thread :rofl:
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:08 pm

Yes, he's apparently gone. He's over on You Tube still trying to torment William about his base heater videos.

Not seeing him here the past few days I guessed at it. His response to me was thinking that I was part of some conspiracy, and he admitted to being thrown off here. His paranoia has him thinking it was William's and my fault. He'll never face up to the likelihood that he did it to himself.

As I told William though, he did manage to collectively bring out some wonderful info about the workings and results of base heaters. And there's other tid-bits in there about the differences (and similarities) of old stoves verse new stove designs.

Sad as it was to see how some of that info was brought out, I see a lot of positive came out of it, that was contributed to by the many knowledgeable folks here on this site who are so willing to share their knowledge and passion for coal stoves.

For that, I want to thank all that contributed. I know I learned a lot more about base heaters and it pushed me to learn more about my own stove too !

Now, if the mods think it best, I'm all for seeing it locked down, but please don't hide it away.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:05 am

Lightning wrote:
ONEDOLLAR wrote:To all.

I don't think CoalCracker is with us anymore. (At least here on NEPA.) He seems to have gone off to "haunt" or "troll" someplace else.


That's odd, the "last visited" date is blank on his profile...

Actually, I'm wondering if he came back as somebody else :shock:


you can be sure Richard has his eye on that ball... even with a proxy and full time it would be hard to overcome an admin's ability to protect if an admin focused (this is one reason its important Rich has the time to deal with things as the forum grows and with all private forums that donate button at the top helps to this end because most do not realize what it takes to keep a forum like this running).
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: BPatrick On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:21 pm

I cant believe how big of a tool he was on here. I watched a few m7nutes of his video debute and thought Will has nothing to worry about. Thank God he is gone. My Christmas wish jus4 came true.
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Baseburners & Antiques: 2 Crawford 40 Baseheaters
Coal Size/Type: Stove Coal
Other Heating: Herald Oak No. 18

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:32 pm

BPatrick wrote:I cant believe how big of a tool he was on here. I watched a few m7nutes of his video debute and thought Will has nothing to worry about. Thank God he is gone. My Christmas wish jus4 came true.

I know right? I didn't bother watching any of his vids. Didn't want to based on his attitude.
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut Size / White Ash

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: PJT On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:45 pm

Lightning wrote:
ONEDOLLAR wrote:To all.

I don't think CoalCracker is with us anymore. (At least here on NEPA.) He seems to have gone off to "haunt" or "troll" someplace else.


That's odd, the "last visited" date is blank on his profile...

Actually, I'm wondering if he came back as somebody else :shock:


Reincarnated, is he? :o LOL
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Baseburners & Antiques: Magee Royal Oak; Glenwood Modern Oak 116
Other Heating: propane

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: Photog200 On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:00 am

If those videos were his...wow, no vocals...he was pretty vocal on here. Ok, now I will try to be nice.
Randy
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, & Kineo #15 base heater
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:46 am

ohhh come on guys... you thought I was kidding about HHT reps & practices toothy "I told Ya SO!" :nana:
anyways... i do hope he can be a better part of the forums someday, somehow... im a sucker for drama i guess :clap:
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:01 am

dcrane wrote:ohhh come on guys... you thought I was kidding about HHT reps & practices toothy "I told Ya SO!" :nana:
anyways... i do hope he can be a better part of the forums someday, somehow... im a sucker for drama i guess :clap:



Does that mean you also like stoves with "soap stone " ? :D

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: worthwhile alternative to antique baseburner coal stoves

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:07 pm

[quote="Sunny Boy"]


Does that mean you also like stoves with "soap stone " ? :D

Paul[/quote]

oh you're good! :lol:
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

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