Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: halfcircle On: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:13 pm

Hello,

I'm new to this forum, and I'm looking to learn about outdoor coal fired boilers. I really want to build my own, and I wonder if anybody has done that, and knows of any good plans. I am also collecting "sage advice" about embarking on such a project. I'm looking forward to your input!

Thanks in advance... MR
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Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: e.alleg On: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:41 am

sounds like a great idea, I think the best way is to get a coal stoker boiler from any reputable company and put it outside and build a shed around it. A regular wood boiler can burn bituminous coal ok but it's not going to do well with anthracite.
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Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 520

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: ktm rider On: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:51 am

I know Greg ( Lsfarm) built his own indoor coal boiler. It was/is quite impressive. I would imagine the only difference would be the outer insulated shell.

OWB's won't burn bituminous coal very well. I tried it for 2 years in mine. then, i got sick of trying ( And failing) so I went and bought a indoor boiler designed for burning coal. it was much easier..
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Stove/Furnace Make: AHS Multifuel
Stove/Furnace Model: CO 55 with oil backup


Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: mufwapo On: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:44 am

I'm just curious but what is the advantage of having an "Outdoor" boiler? I don't see how that makes anything any better. Unless you don't have a basement what makes them so popular?
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Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: Boiler

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:27 am

mufwapo wrote:I'm just curious but what is the advantage of having an "Outdoor" boiler? I don't see how that makes anything any better. Unless you don't have a basement what makes them so popular?


I wouldn't say they are popular, especially with the neighbors. They aren't very efficient and consume a lot more than they are worth. If you have troubles, your going to be out there freezing too. A homes heat source should be in it, the losses will heat your house, not the neighborhood. They are also pretty expensive for what you wind up with if you ask me.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: LsFarm On: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:33 pm

The size and water capacity of the OWB's pretty much dictate that it has to be outside. They are often advertised to burn just about anything. Green wood, branches, hay, straw, tree trimmings sawmill slabs, pallets etc.

The theory is that you build a big, hot fire, heat a lot of water to store the heat and pipe the heat into the house. With the OWB away from the house, the threat of a creosote chimney fire is eliminated, your homeowners insurance won't go up, and the mess from the bark, dirt, wood chips, bugs etc remains outside.

Here's a photo of my 'Big Bertha' boiler when I was installing it through the door of it's new 'home'
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: Wardner On: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:40 am

Image

Sorry, but I don't have any plans. Maybe this picture is worth a thousand words. OK, maybe only three or four words.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hass and Sohn
Baseburners & Antiques: Pot belly
Coal Size/Type: Stove
Other Heating: Shenandoah coal/wood

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: JiminBucks On: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:46 am

"The theory is that you build a big, hot fire, heat a lot of water to store the heat and pipe the heat into the house. With the OWB away from the house, the threat of a creosote chimney fire is eliminated, your homeowners insurance won't go up, and the mess from the bark, dirt, wood chips, bugs etc remains outside."

I don't see the need for an outdoor coal furnace! No creosote fire danger. Your just burning more coal then you need. Ever hear of the KISS solution! :P
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Stove/Furnace Make: EFEL \ Franco Belge
Stove/Furnace Model: Classic Lion \ Normandie

Redneck Penthouse

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:51 am

Can I use the Redneck Furnace to heat my Redneck Penthouse?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: Yanche On: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:21 pm

Wardner wrote:Image

Sorry, but I don't have any plans. Maybe this picture is worth a thousand words. OK, maybe only three or four words.
Redneck to Zoning Enforcement Officer: "Don't need no G** Dam building perr-mitt. It's not a perr-min-it building. I can drive her any old time."
Yanche
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Alternate Heating Systems S-130
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:57 pm

Wardner wrote:Image

Sorry, but I don't have any plans. Maybe this picture is worth a thousand words. OK, maybe only three or four words.



LOL I think that pic is every wife's nightmare.

IMHO I think anthracite was invented by God to heat the homes of the northeast using an indoor unit! The beauty of anthracite over wood is threefold: ability to control the fire from very low to very high (via a stoker), relative convenience of fuel storage(it flows, doesn't rot, deteriorate or spontaneously combust) and the smokelessly "clean" burn.

Wood is more expensive if you analyze your input of time to tend your fire, your fuel preparation and storage, and how it controls your time away from the house. Wood is also a nuisance to any downwind neighbor closer than 300'
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman-Anderson Anthratube 130-M

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:30 pm

Personally I like the outdoor features of my boiler.. I keeps all the noise, dust, smell, potential CO, outside..

And with this drafty house, there is no vacuum or negative pressure on the inside of the house from a chimney drawing air from the house. When the propane boiler was up and running, you could really tell that the house had a draft on it. And I do have an outside air source for the boiler..

Anyway there are some reasons that an outside location is a good thing.. I'd prefer it to be in the adjacent garage so it was closer, but my insurance company is happy that it is 50' away from the house.

Greg L.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:19 pm

Greg your BB isn't an outside boiler, though. It's inside. I wouldn't want an outside coal boiler, I would think the losses due to the cold air around it would be hugh.

What's the MSF stand for?

That looks like on old foundation with newer construction.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:48 pm

MSF stands for Michigan Steel Fabricators, my buddy's business. He welded up my design and water tested it for me.

Big Bertha could have a insulated jacket installed and be outside, I designed it to be able to go outdoors if I decide to sell it.

The building is an old 'cold cellar' or ice house or ??? Stone foundation, had a cedar-shake roof that was falling in. Rather than bull-doze it, I decided to remove the old roof and build a new one. a few years later it became my boiler room.

In the photo below, which is the only photo I have of the building with the old roof, it is behind the car on the right. The car is my '33 Pierce Arrow, the fat guy is me when I was eating too well. and shaving too little.. :lol: :lol:

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: Anyone Built Your Own Coal Outdoor Boiler?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:13 am

I did give the building a look, I was too interested in the P. A.
All I can say is ..Wow.
Makes my little collection pale in comparison.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert