How much coal should I be using??

Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:45 pm

coalcracker wrote: The coal heating systems I've seen with the most voracious appetite never burned more than 6 tons a year,.


You never lived in 3000 sq ft home with 1300 sq. ft heated garage. Every house is different and your experience is no way going to compare to someone else in completely different situation. Again the average 2000 sq ft. home is going to use about 4 to 5 ton per year. That's based on the average of my 500 customers when I was delivering coal, the numerous topics that have been brought up in this forum over the last 9 years and a total of 20 years of experience in this industry.

Since this poster has provided the pertinent information for their home such as the sq. footage, wall widths and window types I can safely suggest 3 to 4 tons usage. To be safe I would go with 4 tons becsue there is still more variables involved here. Teenagers going in and out of the house? Dogs going in and out of the house? Wife wants it real warm? There is an endless amount of variables that is going to determine your coal consumption.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
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Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:09 pm

According to those figures Richard, I'm right on target for 5 tons for roughly 2000 square feet. If ya wanna count the basement, It's around 2400 total.
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
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Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: bigjoe35 On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:04 pm

Hey guys thanks a lot for all the help! I think I have a grasp on usage now

Anyways does anyone have any suggestions on the noise from the flapper?
It's kinda driving us nuts! Can I put some type of gasket or something back there?
Any help on this would be appreciated
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Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: coalcracker On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:28 pm

to get a good handle on stove efficiency and how much coal the stove should be using, check out the coal stoker and boiler forum, there's guys on there using COAL GUN to heat their home and hot water, for around $4 a day, burning 40-50 lbs. a day

I heard about these from a friend and he concurs they burn one pail a day to do the entire 2300 square foot house and all the hot water.

check out this post, considering the BTU of the unit, this is amazing, this is a 130,000 btu BOILER that will heat a house and do the hot water too, 339 lbs. in 8 days, that's only 42 lbs. a day.

one 5 pail bucket per day to run 130k btu- AWESOME !! Fill the hopper up and it feeds itself.

Re: coal usage questions
New postBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:55 pm

When I top off the AHS S-130 Coal Gun this evening I'm expecting to have gone through about 339 lbs. for the first 8 days of December. Just about the same rate of usage as you are experiencing with the Kb-8.
Last edited by coalcracker on Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:39 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Standard sealed hot water boiler, hand fed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark I Magnafire
Baseburners & Antiques: Lehigh Oak 18, Washington potbelly, Sears Roebuck parlor cabinet, PIttston 6 lid cook stove, vintage combo gas/coal cook stove 4 lid
Coal Size/Type: nut
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Mark I Magnafire

Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: Chuck_Steak On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:36 pm

I'm going with 3-1/2 - 4.
I just don't see it being a whole lot different.

Dan
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Coal Size/Type: mostly nut, sometimes stove, Santa brand
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Stove/Furnace Model: Mark III

Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: coalcracker On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:43 pm

here's another one. This is like getting 30 mpg city from a 1970 SS454 Chevelle

self feeding, raking, and doing the hot water. WOW !

By: mariohotshot On: Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:26 pm

I use an average of 3 tons for 5 months (Nov-March) that's 40 lbs a day for a 2400 square ft home at 71degrees.




what a bear !!

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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Standard sealed hot water boiler, hand fed
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark I Magnafire
Baseburners & Antiques: Lehigh Oak 18, Washington potbelly, Sears Roebuck parlor cabinet, PIttston 6 lid cook stove, vintage combo gas/coal cook stove 4 lid
Coal Size/Type: nut
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Mark I Magnafire

Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:52 pm

Forum member mariohotshot has a Keystoker stoker stove, not an AHS boiler. Regardless, it has nothing to do with how much a hand-fired Hitzer burns.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:06 pm

I do 3 TON consistently each season--2400 sq. 73* early Sept till usually mid April & most yrs have enough to start the new season. Once I got this 50-93 dialed in, thanx to suggestions from people here, she's my baby. 80* days--30* nights--not a problem :) This past year I was still burning twds. the end of May & had to buy some extra bags till my bulk got here--had to start real early this season--mid August I believe--I hate the damp this 250 yr old stone foundation sux up!
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: Wiz On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:18 am

Teenagers going in and out of the house? Dogs going in and out of the house? Wife wants it real warm?


Richard you hit that one out of the ball field, exactly some of my biggest heat loss. 3 females that for some reason thinks 30 min showers is needed :?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
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Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: mmcoal On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:56 am

Wiz wrote:
Teenagers going in and out of the house? Dogs going in and out of the house? Wife wants it real warm?


Richard you hit that one out of the ball field, exactly some of my biggest heat loss. 3 females that for some reason thinks 30 min showers is needed :?

In my house you wouldn't have to worry about the hot water with a 30 minute shower....You would run the well dry first, haha.
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Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:17 am

freetown fred wrote:I do 3 TON consistently each season--2400 sq. 73* early Sept till usually mid April & most yrs have enough to start the new season.


3 ton?!?!?! yeah, but Fred you got three dogs to snuggle up to and keep ya warm even if the stove isn't!!

i use between 4 - 5 ton per year even in our southern, below the mason dixon line climate for 3600 sq ft... but i only got one 8lb dog!
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
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Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: JohnB On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:06 pm

I'm On Fire wrote:I generally will go through two coal hods a day. I think that's about 15 pounds of coal each time so 30 pounds. But on those real cold days where I'm running the stove 600* I'll go through 1.5 hods every twelve hours. So, what....60 pounds? Math and I aren't friends.


The coal hod Tractor Supply sells holds 1/2 (20lbs) of a bag of Blaschak Nut filled but not over filled. I'm averaging 2 buckets every 24 hours at this point but I'm sure I'll use more if we get a prolonged cold (low teens) spell.
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Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: Loco627 On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:14 pm

I seem to be using much more than what is considered average here. I have my stove in a 1000 square foot, mostly uninsulated basement under a 1200 square foot house. Windows and insulation aren't bad, but by no means are great. In the past 24 hours with temps ranging from 19 - 29 degree I went through 68 pound. I maintain the house around 70 degree. I used to go through just over 600 gallons of oil a season, but it was rarely above 65 in the house. When temps are more normal for this time of year I seem to average 50 pounds a day. Don't know if that's good or bad, I'm still new to this game. I do know I'm not cold any more and I'm saving lots of money!
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Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:45 pm

Loco627 wrote: I'm still new to this game. I do know I'm not cold any more and I'm saving lots of money!


That is a good start. :)

Loco627 wrote: I have my stove in a 1000 square foot, mostly uninsulated basement under a 1200 square foot house.


That basement is absorbing a lot of heat.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: How much coal should I be using??

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:52 pm

How is the warm air getting from the basement to the first floor?
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