Looking to Install a Boiler
- oliver power
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- Location: Near Dansville, NY
- Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-2310), D.S. 1600 Circulator, Hitzer 254
Nice looking boiler Anthony!!! I knew by reading your posts, that you were an aggressive learner. Doing your research, and nose to the ground, I knew you'd find your boiler. Good job........ Oliver
- anthony7812
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- Location: Colley,Pennsylvania
- Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
- Coal Size/Type: Buck/Anthracite
Each boiler I reviewed has its pro's and con's, Im glad I was able to jump on the Van Wert when the opportunity arose. I have alotta work yet, raising the height of the chimney, running baseboard, installing a walkout basement door, plumbing.... list goes on. Lots more work yet.
- anthony7812
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- Coal Size/Type: Buck/Anthracite
Hydrolevel 3250 and remote mounting kit ordered! About another month I should see all this come to life. For now, Monday the backhoe is gonna dig my new walkout basement door, boy thats gonna make life easier. Then the boiler will be placed from the garage to basement!
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- Location: N/W Pa. Meadville, Pa.
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- Other Heating: Crown 115,000 BTU oil fired boiler(house) Weil Mclain 150,000BTU oil fired boiler(Shop)
Anthony, do not skimp on valving.
Buy Full Port ball valves.
Every circulator should had a Full Port ball vale on each side of it to allow for easy removal and replacement of it.
All zones should have their own valving also.
Install boiler drains on each zone to allow you to drain the zone if there is a problem in the future. One on the return and one on the supply.
Install Key Vents or Coin Vents at every piece of radiation equipment to allow for bleeding the air out of the system also.
Look into a true recirculating loop on your DHW to save on water. A true recirculating loop needs a return leg to feed the water back to the water heater. There are a few systems out there that use the cold water piping to feed the hot water back to the water heater, all those systems do is switch the waste from waiting for the hot water to get to the faucet, to waiting for the cold water to cool down. Since you are ripping and tearing to install the zones for heating than you could add the recirc leg right now also.
Asa to DHW production, a stand alone boiler mate type system would be alright, a plate or tube heat exchanger (w/controls) installed to heat the water going into the water heater and maintain the water temperature in the system would also be okay, as would the DHW coil in the boiler.
Since you are outnumbered in the household you should plan for massive hot water use in the coming years before it becomes a tie again.
Remember. It is better to spend the money now and install valving than to have a leak in the system in the middle of January on a Sunday night @ -8°F and have to shut the whole system down until you can get the parts to repair the leak.
Dan.
Buy Full Port ball valves.
Every circulator should had a Full Port ball vale on each side of it to allow for easy removal and replacement of it.
All zones should have their own valving also.
Install boiler drains on each zone to allow you to drain the zone if there is a problem in the future. One on the return and one on the supply.
Install Key Vents or Coin Vents at every piece of radiation equipment to allow for bleeding the air out of the system also.
Look into a true recirculating loop on your DHW to save on water. A true recirculating loop needs a return leg to feed the water back to the water heater. There are a few systems out there that use the cold water piping to feed the hot water back to the water heater, all those systems do is switch the waste from waiting for the hot water to get to the faucet, to waiting for the cold water to cool down. Since you are ripping and tearing to install the zones for heating than you could add the recirc leg right now also.
Asa to DHW production, a stand alone boiler mate type system would be alright, a plate or tube heat exchanger (w/controls) installed to heat the water going into the water heater and maintain the water temperature in the system would also be okay, as would the DHW coil in the boiler.
Since you are outnumbered in the household you should plan for massive hot water use in the coming years before it becomes a tie again.
Remember. It is better to spend the money now and install valving than to have a leak in the system in the middle of January on a Sunday night @ -8°F and have to shut the whole system down until you can get the parts to repair the leak.
Dan.
- anthony7812
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- Coal Size/Type: Buck/Anthracite
S400B honeywellRob R. wrote:That will really make things simple. What are you using for a timer?anthony7812 wrote:Hydrolevel 3250 and remote mounting kit ordered!
- anthony7812
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- Coal Size/Type: Buck/Anthracite
Doors installed! What a freakin job that was. Finally getting around to get boiler up on the blocks and get her leveled up. Scott learned me something, once I get it all shimmed properly im gonna use some leveling cement and see how that works out. Found an old schaefer beer can in the wall, wonder why the damn walls arent plumb!
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- Hambden Bob
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Well This ought to pay you some fine dividends this coming Winter! Carry On !
- anthony7812
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Just being able to take the ashes out vs dumping them out the window quickly before I get a facefull will be gosh darn nice!
- anthony7812
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One rad just about done.. One more to clean up.
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- lsayre
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Nice! Those radiators sure beat the fin-tube type hot water baseboards in my house hands down for looks. They no doubt will outlast a fin-tube baseboard also.
- anthony7812
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- Coal Size/Type: Buck/Anthracite
Just a couple for my basement zone. My basement isnt very damp but damp enough to not want to fork out bookoo dollars for new fin and tube baseboards. These had an affordable price tag, got some new bushings and air vents now im in business. Holy balls they are heavy!
- anthony7812
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- Coal Size/Type: Buck/Anthracite
I can walk 'em to back and forth to where im painting them but no way I can move them into my basement alone or without some motorized assistance. I have a 4x8 utility trailer, figured im gonna lay 'em down in that on some old blanket(its an open metal grate cart) and hook up to the four wheeler. Bastards are heavy.Rob R. wrote:Be very careful moving those radiators. An appliance or drum cart and a helper make a big difference.
- anthony7812
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
- Coal Size/Type: Buck/Anthracite
6 rooms with radiators mounted and the primary loop complete. 1/2 way their.