Temp swing with coaltrol

Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: warmtikes On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:16 pm

Installed A Pocono Stove With Coaltrol A Few Weeks Ago And I Am Having 5° Temp Swings. I Have Ran A Couple Pieces Of Duct Work To Help Even Temps Out Thinking That Maybe It Would Help alleviate Heat Build Up In The Basement. I Have Also Tried Changing The HLF Setting Twice And It Doesn't Seem To Make A Difference. Any Ideas?

Sorry About The Caps Phone Keeps Putting Them In.
warmtikes
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pocono
Coal Size/Type: rice

Re: Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:25 pm

My HLF is set to 0, anything more causes temperature swings. The swings are useful if you have a poorly insulated house, so it does serve a purpose.
EarthWindandFire
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Lil' Heater.
Other Heating: Oil Furnace and Kerosene Heaters.

Re: Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: warmtikes On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:58 pm

It Was Doing It At 0 And I Changed It To 1 For A Few Days With No Change So I Put It On 2 And Still No Change. The House Is 1800 Square Feet. It Has Descent Insulation.
warmtikes
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pocono
Coal Size/Type: rice

Re: Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:26 pm

warmtikes wrote:Installed A Pocono Stove With Coaltrol A Few Weeks Ago And I Am Having 5° Temp Swings. I Have Ran A Couple Pieces Of Duct Work To Help Even Temps Out Thinking That Maybe It Would Help alleviate Heat Build Up In The Basement. I Have Also Tried Changing The HLF Setting Twice And It Doesn't Seem To Make A Difference. Any Ideas?

Sorry About The Caps Phone Keeps Putting Them In.



How is the return air set up?
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Re: Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: warmtikes On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:39 pm

There Is A Couple Of Unused Floor Vents That Are Not Hooked Up And I Also Leave The Basement Door Open.
warmtikes
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pocono
Coal Size/Type: rice

Re: Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:56 pm

warmtikes wrote:There Is A Couple Of Unused Floor Vents That Are Not Hooked Up And I Also Leave The Basement Door Open.



May help if you run 1 or 2 of the unused floor vents closer to the floor.
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Re: Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: Rigar On: Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:30 pm

...I understand the concept behind the coaltrol...even wanted it myself (but was told it would void my warranty on my particular furnace)...any ways....
...By swing do you mean difference between SET temp and actual temp in the room where the t-stat is??
..where is it located in relationship to stoves location??
..with out adequate air circulation..uneven temps throughout the house is common...sometimes problematic.
Overshooting the set temp can be typical of a well insulated house...and partly the nature of the beast sometimes with coal.
...5 degrees is alot tho...
...any anticipator type setting on the coaltrol??
Rigar
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace

Re: Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: pvolcko On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:27 am

Warmtikes,

Would you mind giving us a call at 315-299-3589 to discuss this with you.

In the meantime, can you try changing your MAX setting (in the SETUP menu) to something lower. Maybe try reducing it by a third or half.

Also, please make sure the thermostat is mounted on an interior wall, not in the direct path of any vents or drafts, and is not in direct sunlight. If it is sitting on a shelf or couch or something like that "temporarily" it can adversely affect the performance of it.

Also, is it continuously swinging 5 degrees around a steady setpoint, or do you have different setpoint temperatures programmed into it throughout the day? For the moment try using a single setpoint temperature to eliminate setpoint changes from the investigation and troubleshooting.
pvolcko
 

Re: Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: warmtikes On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:45 am

I Have The Temp Set At 72 All The Time. It Does Seem To Have The Temp Swing On A Regular Basis. Usually I See It Drop To 70 Until It Starts To Get Warmer Then It Doesnt Seem To Drop The Feed Rate Until It Gets To 74 And It Will Occasionally Hit 75. I Do Have It Setting On Top Of A Cabinet That Is Against An Inside Wall That Stands About 5' Tall. I Will Hang It On The Wall And See If It Helps And Lower The Max Feed Rate.
warmtikes
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pocono
Coal Size/Type: rice

Re: Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: pvolcko On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:14 pm

It may be the sitting on the cabinet causing it. There is an air hole on the left side of the top and bottom of the thermostat. These need to be unobstructed so air can move through the thermostat case. We've also found that having it sitting on objects can result in some thermal coupling, causing delay in response to room air changes, obviously.

I'd suggest getting it properly mounted first, then try moving the MAX to a lower value if the problem persists.
pvolcko
 

Re: Temp swing with coaltrol

PostBy: warmtikes On: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:48 am

Just An Up Date. I Got The Thermostat Mounted And Then Lowered The Max Feed Rate And It Seems To Have Taken Care Of The Issue.
warmtikes
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pocono
Coal Size/Type: rice