Another school shooting

Another school shooting

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:37 pm

Looks like it's happening again in Colorado, going on now so there are no details, hope it's not bad.
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:51 pm

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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: plumb-r On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:59 pm

We can afford health care for those that pay no tax but can not place a guard at a school to protect our children. This kid walked right thru the front door with a shot gun. If there was a guard there it would not have happened. :no1:
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:20 pm

It might also help if the media would just stop with all of their reporting over and over and over and over and over and over................ :idea:
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:28 pm

Plumb-r, I believe that's been discussed before but the main problem becomes one of money, & who are you going to get to be guards. Living in Pa. you probably already know it's the property owner that pays school tax & I think most are taxed to a max already. I know in my area school district there are more school buildings than there are cops so that wouldn't work & even if there would be enough that leaves everyone else unprotected.
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: grumpy On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:48 pm

You can always arm the staff, some schools have done this.
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: rockwood On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:50 pm

I know people would volunteer to do it for free around here...of course there would need to be training etc.

grumpy wrote:You can always arm the staff, some schools have done this.

Yep, teachers can lawfully conceal carry in public schools here and I know of some that do 8-). People are carrying at church too.
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: grumpy On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:52 pm

More guns, less crime....
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:02 pm

I even thought about having some unemployed vets or even just unemployed but there becomes a liability issue (once again too many lawyers in the world IMO) teachers again can't be in two places at once + the liability & wanting more pay. It's an imperfect world & we discuss how to make our schools prison like & not how to get parents to be more responsible. There should be an answer somewhere But I sure don't know where but I would start at the root in the homes of the kids. :cry:
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:02 pm

grumpy wrote:You can always arm the staff, some schools have done this.



Makes too much sense. But I believe a few schools in PA are doing this. The one I heard of is in a mostly conservative area. Coincidence? But still not making it well known. Why poke the bear.
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:21 pm

Why is it always guns.... im sick and tired of this nonsense. Face the facts we have seriously expanded out digital footprint in this generation. THIS IS FACT. Social Development isnt the same when we were all younger. We need better guidance counselers, the lazy piles I had all they were good for was helping get phone numbers for colleges or recruiters. How about some early education programs designed for mental growth and health. We already pay guidance counselors in schools and they dont do squat, hold 'em accountable, make'em work.
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:51 pm

When these things happen, I often wonder what FDA approved drugs the kid was on. Because it seems like the schools first reaction to anyone that doesn't fit into their pigeon hole is to recommend medication.

Maybe if we weren't pumping kids with chemicals that carry this warning, we wouldn't have quite as many issues....

Call a healthcare provider right away if you or your family member has any of the following symptoms, especially if they are new, worse, or worry you:
•thoughts about suicide or dying
•attempts to commit suicide
•new or worse depression
•new or worse anxiety
•feeling very agitated or restless
•panic attacks
•trouble sleeping (insomnia)
•new or worse irritability
•acting aggressive, being angry, or violent
•acting on dangerous impulses
•an extreme increase in activity and talking(mania)
•other unusual changes in behavior or mood
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: DieselBob On: Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:27 am

Lets see, what has changed in the last generation. Oh that's right the food wasn't laced with all the growth steroids, hormones and genetically modified foods that are the staple of most children's diets today. Lets think for a minute. What is one of the signs of an athlete that using steroids or HGH, that's right unexplained outbursts of rage and violence, but wait, that can't be it the FDA has approved all of these so it must be something else. Maybe the children are just not understood and need freedom to express themselves without the hindrance of silly old rules and bounders.
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:58 am

plumb-r wrote:We can afford health care for those that pay no tax but can not place a guard at a school to protect our children. This kid walked right thru the front door with a shot gun. If there was a guard there it would not have happened. :no1:


You need more than guards and who is to say the guard isn't the nut case to go off?

You need to separate the school building from the administration building and all entrances into the school need double doors.

I mentioned in previous thread I went to pick my niece up at her school becsue she was sick and they had a foyer with formidable plexiglass and doors that required you be buzzed in. They buzzed someone through as I was standing there and I could of easily walked right into the school. It was even worse at a daycare center, I tapped someones car in a parking lot and found out they worked a t a daycare there. I walked into the daycare and same thing with the plexiglass and the doors. When the woman saw me she walked right past the teller type window over to the door and opened it to ask me what I wanted. :roll:

You'll never stop these incidents from happening but addressing safety at the schools themselves should be a priority because you have a large amount of potential victims congregated in one area.
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Re: Another school shooting

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:03 am

rockwood wrote:I know people would volunteer to do it for free around here...of course there would need to be training etc.

grumpy wrote:You can always arm the staff, some schools have done this.

Yep, teachers can lawfully conceal carry in public schools here and I know of some that do 8-). People are carrying at church too.


I'd carry conceal on the bus and schools in a heartbeat if given the option but that's not going to flying in deep blue Northern VA. Heck, they just elected someone under investigation for fraud as governor and that's the least of his legal problems. I'm afraid of what's got to happen before these people see the light. Lisa
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