How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:07 pm

carlherrnstein wrote:I'll vote for the Aladdin mantle lamps. I picked up 2 of them a yard sale for cheep. You do have to watch them, they have their particularities, mainly the mantle breaks or gets carbon deposits on it.


Yes, you have to learn how to use them. The two I use the most is the one in the living room. It is lit on most winter nights. And the one on my desk which is lit all the time. Once you learn how the lamp behaves you know just how high to set it so that you don't get the sooting up of the mantle from having the wick too high. You must be patient. It's not the actual flame from the wick that makes the light, it's the heat from it. As the lamp warms up it causes the kerosene in the wick to vaporize faster, which causes a higher flame. If you start the lamp and leave it on a low setting, you will notice it getting brighter all by itself as it warms up. After about 10 minutes or so everything is up to temperature and then you can tweak the setting for it properly.
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:07 pm

INDEED ws--everything but the OINK :clap: toothy my recurve is not all that difficult to make arrows for ya know--
wsherrick wrote:Another big part of living without electricity is PLANNING AHEAD. Also a keen awareness of the environment around you is also necessary. In the old fashioned, non pre-packaged, non instant world I was raised in everything had to be thought out ahead of time. Mother would be planning lunch during breakfast, for example. Laundry day took the entire day and you still had to make three meals too. Laundry is the hardest thing to do without a washing machine in my mind. It's a like a factory process that includes Mom and all available children forced into laundry servitude. You have to plan for all of that labor and manage your time wisely or things just don't get done, period. You don't have proper meals or clean clothes. If you don't manage the garden in the summer, sit on the porch and shuck corn, shell peas or pluck feathers. You have nothing to eat for the Winter.
When November comes it's hog killing time. You can't slaughter before a hard freeze. From the hog comes your soap, lard for cooking biscuits and making pie crusts, bacon and everything else that you will eat over the winter. If you forget to buy enough salt then you waste your effort and things go waste.
The greatest maxim of childhood which was beaten, scolded and disciplined into my psyche more than anything else was this: You waste nothing. Waste was a sin and an affront to almighty God. If you thoughtlessly wasted what you were blessed with, then you didn't deserve it.
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: 009to090 On: Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:08 pm

freetown fred wrote:INDEED ws--everything but the OINK



and that is how we made Scrapple.... Everything but the OINK goes into it
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:24 pm

Damn it Chris, now ya got me thinkin about Hatfield :mad: ;)
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:07 pm

lsayre wrote:I'm interested in being capable of surviving off grid also. As part of this I've been considering a hand pump as an addition to our existing well. But now the idea of putting one in the basement suddenly intrigues me.

http://bisonpumps.com/


Larry, I was shocked how easy it was for me to hand pound with a sledge a 2" point down about 17 feet to hit pure clear water below my foundation (i gained 6 feet instantly by virtue of being in my basement), these points are stainless and can be bought at home depot or whatever... idk if im just lucky or i hit the "mother load" river but this thing drives a 6 zone 60 head sprinkler system! I have no concern of freezing temps or taking pumps in and out, etc. (the one thing that bugs me a little is the noise for the few secs when it comes on to fill that tank).
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:15 pm

wsherrick wrote:For light you need to get some Aladdin Mantle Lamps. They are the best kerosene lamps made. They produce light equivalent to about a 50 Watt light bulb. I use them all of the time.
Life without electricity requires a rhythm of being that works with how nature works. When the Sun comes up. You get up. You take advantage of the daylight. The evenings are spent in contemplation, reading or going to bed early.
It's the way things were done for 1000's of years. Your body is naturally set up to live like that.

My new Avatar is of one of my Aladdin Lamps working during Hurricane Sandy. Be smart get a couple of these. There are plenty of them on ebay and they still make part for them as well as entire new ones.

You can also buy refrigerators that run off of Kerosene or Propane. They work just as well as the electric ones do.


Ha! 50w bright would be great! what makes these Aladdin's so good?
@ Fred... see^^^ William is drenched in bright light over their during outages! I knew their had to be an answer better than these useless candles :mad:
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:17 pm

I like this guy on youtube. Type "wranglerstar" in the search bar. He's a modern day homesteader. Not a hippie tree hugging
type. He uses gas, diesel, tractors, chainsaws, etc. Lots off good how to video's. Wish I could be self sustaining. Getting sick of having to deal with people. Matt
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:10 am

DePippo79 wrote:I like this guy on youtube. Type "wranglerstar" in the search bar. He's a modern day homesteader. Not a hippie tree hugging
type. He uses gas, diesel, tractors, chainsaws, etc. Lots off good how to video's. Wish I could be self sustaining. Getting sick of having to deal with people. Matt


love that dude too!!! sometimes he's a lil' crazy though... id hate to be the dude on cam while winching the cat out :eek2:
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:30 am

I'm trying to figure out how we got to this wrangler thing when this started out as " live well "OFF GRID" without power or help--(self sustaining)-I guess I've got a REAL different understanding of exactly what that means to different people :? :)
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: Sting On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:36 am

I believe we were recently chastised for this type of behavior!

Too Many Non Contributory and Off Topic Posts

:D
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:13 am

Sting wrote:I believe we were recently chastised for this type of behavior!
:D



Naw, the way I interpreted that warning was referring to the upper section of the site. I think we are allowed to wander all over creation here. He wants to keep the upper section clean for search engines.



So FF, how many arrows do you make over the winter ?? Do your chickens have ANY feathers by spring time ???



I can't see how anyone can live totally off the grid in an urban environment. You need space. At least enough space to get the outhouse away from the main house !!!




Rick
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:33 am

Wind, sun, water, whale oil, coal... I want some recommendations for cheaply, efficiently, functionally going "OFF GRID" and living like a KING!


Well Rick, I am now a convert. I am going down to the duck pond and catch me a whale or two and make some lamp oil. This is going to be exciting.
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:00 am

Chicken feathers??? how URBANE ;) I agree 100% Rick, in urban areas, it will come down to--survival of the fittest both physically & mentally--there will be a WHOLE LOT of weeding out there. The Creator has given us so much on this earth that could keep a person going for an awful long time--all this talk about kero, gardens, etc--my question is where would people get the petro or seeds to harvest--ya really want to talk survival or some yuppy version of when we loose power for a couple hrs? If anybody saved those Mother Earth News from the 70's, there is a whole lot of realistic info available :)
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:27 am

Yes FF, so many people think those times were romantic. You worked from dawn to dusk just to survive. Mod. cons. are just that and most of us can't live without them.
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:51 am

Yep - we saw first hand when Hurricane Sandy rolled through that most east coast dwellers completely melt down after just one week without power. :shock:
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