How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:56 am

The point with this topic, I thought, was to survive if & when mod. conviences are not available--if what you say is actual fact, then there will be a HELL of a thinning out process & if & when, that'll be just fine with me. To clarify, I'm not just looking at the good old USA, I'm looking worldwide! We as a whole have become such a selfish society that it really saddens me.
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:17 am

Rick 386 wrote:
Sting wrote:I believe we were recently chastised for this type of behavior!
:D



Naw, the way I interpreted that warning was referring to the upper section of the site. I think we are allowed to wander all over creation here. He wants to keep the upper section clean for search engines.



So FF, how many arrows do you make over the winter ?? Do your chickens have ANY feathers by spring time ???



I can't see how anyone can live totally off the grid in an urban environment. You need space. At least enough space to get the outhouse away from the main house !!!

Rick for Mod! :clap: he "gets it" perfectly!

anyways... I just bid on an Aladdin lamp (so nobody bid on it against me :mad: )... now i need a hand pump to plumb into my well while still being able to swap back to elec... thoughts please?


Rick
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:24 am

I just bid on an Aladdin lamp (so nobody bid on it against me :mad: ).


Exactly how do you source the kerosene in the new world?
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: 009to090 On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:25 am

I know people who have made this water pump. It can pump from a deep well too. Another website (I can't remember its name) will sell a complete kit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_RqQ3elzNU

Heres another one for a shallow well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdVw5R4JBfc
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:42 pm

freetown fred wrote:The point with this topic, I thought, was to survive if & when mod. conviences are not available--if what you say is actual fact, then there will be a HELL of a thinning out process & if & when, that'll be just fine with me. To clarify, I'm not just looking at the good old USA, I'm looking worldwide! We as a whole have become such a selfish society that it really saddens me.



It may not be long now. http://endoftheamericandream.com/archiv ... ng-to-life
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:46 pm

dcrane wrote:
DePippo79 wrote:I like this guy on youtube. Type "wranglerstar" in the search bar. He's a modern day homesteader. Not a hippie tree hugging
type. He uses gas, diesel, tractors, chainsaws, etc. Lots off good how to video's. Wish I could be self sustaining. Getting sick of having to deal with people. Matt


love that dude too!!! sometimes he's a lil' crazy though... id hate to be the dude on cam while winching the cat out :eek2:



Love the enthusiasm for wanting to be off grid. I will have to look up some of his videos.
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: mmcoal On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:03 pm

Anyone ever see that show of the homesteaders up in Alaska? They are suppose to be so self sufficient, but rely on all kinds of gasoline and diesel powered machines. It really comes down to the fact that most of us will almost always be dependent in some way on someone else so the meaning of living a self sufficient life can vary greatly from person to person. Give me 100 grand worth of machinery and I can be a little more self sufficient to :D .
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:18 pm

DC, Aladdin lamps are good because they use a mantle to make light like the Colman fishing lamps or the old gas street lamps.

The light is bright white and soft, very much like the light from a incandescent light bulb.
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:50 pm

SMITTY wrote:Yep - we saw first hand when Hurricane Sandy rolled through that most east coast dwellers completely melt down after just one week without power. :shock:


My house was without power for a week or more. Did just fine. In fact, I had the neighbors over because they had nothing. They didn't have enough gas in the car to go hunt for gas so they could get gas for the car AND their generator.
I guess I have the advantage as I spent much of my childhood in a very rural area, down a dirt road without a phone, running water or electricity. We ate like kings off of everything we grew and prepared. The 20 mile trip to the store happened once a month and we bought staples such sugar. coffee and things like that.
It was lots of work and everybody had to work.
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:53 pm

coalnewbie wrote:
I just bid on an Aladdin lamp (so nobody bid on it against me :mad: ).


Exactly how do you source the kerosene in the new world?


If you can't get Kerosene, there is yet another valuable product that comes from Mr. Hog. It's called, Tallow. You can make candles from it or use it in a lamp. It also works great to grease up squeaky hinges and the like.

But I think Kerosene is widely available and even you should be able to find some near you. I bet you friendly local oil dealer sells it.
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:57 pm

coalnewbie wrote:Yes FF, so many people think those times were romantic. You worked from dawn to dusk just to survive. Mod. cons. are just that and most of us can't live without them.


Yes you worked, but; you have time for fun activities too. We certainly did.

The MAIN thing that is needed before all of the work is the THINKING part. The ability to be organized and have the ability to manage available time is essential. I think this is the part where the average, modern person would fail miserably.
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:14 pm

For those interested here is a video I found about how to light an Aladdin Lamp.

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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:56 pm

wsherrick wrote:For those interested here is a video I found about how to light an Aladdin Lamp.




Just curious. If you rub it does a young version of Barbara Eden come out? :drool:
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:44 pm

I'll take the existing version of Barbara Eden. At 53,that's about my speed of what a Cougar would be ! Nice Lamps,Carry on ! :flush:
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Re: How to Live WELL "Off Grid" without Power or Help

PostBy: warminmn On: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:03 pm

DC, you dont need an expensive pump. Just a cheap cistern pump. Dont spend too much as I think new they are maybe $60 tops. They pump over 20 feet (static level of water) so you can run it upstairs if you want.

edit: also called a pitcher pump. heres what Im talking about. Cheaper too.
http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/water-s ... 0000009152
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