Vw tdi

Vw tdi

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:18 pm

Guys,

Anybody with some advice please post.

Sooooo..... I bought one of those high mileage alternative Vw tdi wagons a few years back and have developed a coolant leak. It is leaking out the reservoir overflow. After the veh.warms up and you put it under a load itll puke out enough coolant to trip the low coolant sensor but has yet to overheat.

I took the thing to the stealership and they replaced the res cap and checked the egr (bypassed) trying to find the cause of the thing building pressure and popping off. Now they are saying that the head gasket is probably the cause and want $1500 to do a head gasket(hg)

The TDI driver guy site( no where as helpful as our coal burner guy site) is divided into two camps, Its your tstat /waterpump or its you hg camps. Im hoping that this whole thing isnt headed for Smitty's "I own a wheeled toilet" thread. Thoughts?

The fat lady aint sing yet but she's backstage sprayin her throat :confused:

Thanx
Waldo
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:51 pm

I would lean toward the head gasket.
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:57 pm

Back in the late 70's to early 80's when diesels made their first go-around in US passenger vehicles, head gasket failure and right on up to warped heads were the bane of the diesels. These problems gave them such a bad name that they are just now beginning to re-surface. It wasn't just US manufactured vehicles that were plagued however. Back then I had a 1980 Audi 5000 Diesel, and after 4 or 5 blown head gaskets it ended up with a warped head.

PS: Audi is a subsidiary of Volkswagen.
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:04 pm

Have you tried www.vwvortex.com ? They were very helpful when I had my VR6 Passat.
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:12 pm

Sounds like a head gasket to me. I had this happen on a Ford Escort diesel.
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:25 pm

See if there is a TDI guru nearby. They are generally a better alternative. It does sound like a possible head issue but proper troubleshooting is the only way to be sure.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=130044
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:01 pm

What year is it?
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: tsb On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:02 pm

If they guarantee that the $1500 will solve the problem, go for it,
but be prepared to take it in the shorts for something else soon after that.
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:08 pm

tsb wrote:If they guarantee that the $1500 will solve the problem, go for it,
but be prepared to take it in the shorts for something else soon after that.



I wouldn't trust a dealer unless they came with a good referral.
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: Berlin On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:40 pm

head gasket. any of the euro aluminum head diesels should have head studs installed, I've done this on my '91 1.6 jetta diesel and have helped others r&r heads on their tdi's with the installation of studs.

The mls gaskets on the tdi's and newer aluminum head diesels have made gasket failures en masse a thing of the past on aluminum head diesels, but, it's still more frequent than those engines w/ cast iron heads. The notable exception in the passenger vehicle market is the duramax. Regardless, studs from arp or raceware are the answer.
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: mmcoal On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:55 pm

I have seen one and heard of other 6600 Duramax engines with this same problem and it turned out to be a head gasket. After seeing the repair bill on a Duramax top end rebuild I'm damn glad I went with a gasser in my truck.
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: Cap On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:19 pm

What year and mileage ? VW diesel wagons are great vehicles but the head gasket is certainly its Achilles heel. I'd do it myself or find a vw guy. Stay away from the dealer.
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:45 pm

A little more info,

the car is a 2005 and has 135k miles. From all accounts on the vw blogs the head gasket rarely fails on this yr and model. At this point my understanding is that it can only be a couple of things ;A) thermostat or waterpump B) head gasket or crack.

I am not a fan of stealerships for repairs but to be fair they gave us a loaner for three days, put $100 of new parts tried bypassing the egr test drove and rebled the cooling system at least three times and charged us $208 total. Not fixed but that was certainly fair.

Now if they would tell me that if the new hg doesnt do it its free Id jump at it. Right now Im leaning toward replacing the tstat and the mech said he could check Water pump while he had the tstat out....IDFK :? Im thinking Ill end up puttin some American standard seats in the frapin thing and call it a wheeled toilet. :mad:
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:10 pm

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=BK_7001006_0361073538

run down to local NAPA get ya one of theses. Its easy to use and will confirm a leaking headgasket. get engine up to temp, remove resvoir cap slowly, put it in cap opening(snug fit), have engine running while at temp, pump vacum bulb, a few times to create vaccuum, so any exhaust fumes/gases will be drawn into it. if it changes to bright green>yellow head gasket leaks or heads cracked.
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Re: Vw tdi

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:16 pm

waldo lemieux wrote:A little more info,

the car is a 2005 and has 135k miles. From all accounts on the vw blogs the head gasket rarely fails on this yr and model. At this point my understanding is that it can only be a couple of things ;A) thermostat or waterpump B) head gasket or crack.

I am not a fan of stealerships for repairs but to be fair they gave us a loaner for three days, put $100 of new parts tried bypassing the egr test drove and rebled the cooling system at least three times and charged us $208 total. Not fixed but that was certainly fair.

Now if they would tell me that if the new hg doesnt do it its free Id jump at it. Right now Im leaning toward replacing the tstat and the mech said he could check Water pump while he had the tstat out....IDFK :? Im thinking Ill end up puttin some American standard seats in the frapin thing and call it a wheeled toilet. :mad:



Did you have the WP and TB changed at the 100k like recommended. There is a kit you can use to see if it is compression from combustion leaking into the antifreeze. http://www.walmart.com/ip/29375671?wmls ... 96&veh=sem

Not many miles for a TDI. The t stat is an expensive little bugger. You may be able to remove the center or jam it open for testing but with the TDI you need to have one in there.

BTW if its not actually overheating or getting hotter than normal. That leads me to believe Head as well.
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