My first post and another liner question!

My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Vermonster On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:01 pm

I have another liner question. I am thinking about putting some type of a coal stove in my basement. My house was built in 1900 and has 2 brick chimneys. These are brick chimneys that both go from the basement up through the house and out the roof. They are about 15 feet apart. One chimney is used for a oil fired boiler that is in use as we speak. The other chimney was used for a wood boiler that I am getting rid of. I have owned this house for 17 years. Before I bought this place the old owners used the wood boiler and the oil burner together. The chimney that had the wood boiler in it does have a stainless steel liner in it and is in great shape. What I want to do is remove the wood boiler and put some type of coal stove that puts out radiant heat to keep my basement warm and the first floor of my house. My house is a 2 story house that has a tenant upstairs. I would still keep my oil boiler so the tenant can have their own zone of heat. I will keep the oil boiler. I want this coal stove to keep my house warmer and make heat when power goes out. I dont have the money for a full blown coal boiler. My question is the chimney I want to put the coal stove at has a stainless liner, should I remove the liner? Or should I hook the coal stove to it? This is long winded but I could not find that specific question on here. I would appreciate any advice I could get. Thank you, I'm glad I found this website.
Vermonster
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac Gotha 713 Rest in peace! Chubby Coal Stove
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut coal
Other Heating: oil boiler

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:07 pm

Welcome to the Forum! Do you have a working fireplace on the first floor or could you break into the flu from the wood boiler as it passes through the first floor?
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Vermonster On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:20 pm

I do not have a fireplace on the first floor. I had a mason check out this chimney, when he got his flashlight and mirror out he looked up in and there are no other places that has been tapped into liner. When it goes through the first floor it is right in a corner that 2 sides are accessible and could have a thimble installed. The only place this chimney has been used is from the basement.
Vermonster
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac Gotha 713 Rest in peace! Chubby Coal Stove
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut coal
Other Heating: oil boiler


Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Berlin On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:44 pm

I would remove the stainless liner.
Berlin
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:46 pm

If it's possible, chimney wise, room wise and aesthetic wise, having the stove in the living space is almost always more efficient than hoping hot air will rise from the basement. The closer the stove is to you, the closer you are to the heat :D As Berlin said. If the chimney is sound, pull the liner. Maybe you could sell it for a down payment on a coal stove!
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:51 pm

Welcome to the forum Vermonster! What kind of wood boiler are your ripping out and do you have a picture of it??
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:02 pm

Loose the liner, saves headaches down the road:)
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: grumpy On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:22 pm

I would remove the liner, just want to put that out there since no one else has... :lol: :lol:
grumpy
 

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:07 pm

How about swapping the wood boiler for a coal boiler? Sounds like the piping and such is already there.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Vermonster On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:23 pm

Thank you for all the replies. If I removed the liner do you think that my best bet would be to get it reinspected and go ahead and use the old chimney? If the inspector says the chimney needs some work what would they do? Is there some kind of way to reline the chimney with clay tiles? Would it be ok to burn one heating season with the stainless liner? Am I asking enough questions?! This is some great information and I can't thank you enough.
Vermonster
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac Gotha 713 Rest in peace! Chubby Coal Stove
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut coal
Other Heating: oil boiler

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:25 pm

Does the chimney have clay tiles in it now?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Vermonster On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:42 pm

Its just an old brick chimney that has been lined with stainless steel.
Vermonster
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac Gotha 713 Rest in peace! Chubby Coal Stove
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut coal
Other Heating: oil boiler

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: LDPosse On: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:45 pm

You can probably get a few seasons out of that stainless liner if you perform the necessary maintenance at the end of the season. Just make sure you clean it thoroughly before hooking up the coal appliance. If there is any creosote buildup, it will break off and fall down inside the pipe after a few weeks of coal burning.

Then there is another option... Last year, I didn't clean my stainless stove pipe or the stove until it was time to start burning again. I just burned bituminous coal the last few days of the 2012-2013 heating season. The thin layer of soot did an excellent job of keeping my stove and pipe rust-free.
LDPosse
 
Stove/Furnace Make: DS Machine, Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: DS1500, Heatrola

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Vermonster On: Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:05 am

That sounds good LD. You mean for maintenance a good brushing in the fall and spring? Also, when that steel finally does get bad where does that leave me? Could a chimney as old as my house be ok to use for coal? Thanks again everybody realy appreciate this.
Vermonster
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac Gotha 713 Rest in peace! Chubby Coal Stove
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut coal
Other Heating: oil boiler

Re: My first post and another liner question!

PostBy: Berlin On: Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:16 am

your chimney as old as your house is better than having a stainless liner. pull it and be happy.
Berlin
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal


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