Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:48 am

Rob R. wrote:

Edit: I suppose this is might be harder to observe in hand-fired equipment since the ashes are usually ground to a powder....


Certainly the grinding is going to reduce the volume but generally speaking a hand fired coal stove burns up the coal better. From my own experience the same exact load of buck used in the Van Wert produced the typical chunky granola type ash with a little bit of black in it while it burned up to powder in a Franco Belge.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
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Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:05 am

Which is also true with my Hitzer 50-93 using NUT
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Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: Lightning On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:23 am

I agree. The red ash I burned last year was much heavier than the white ash I have this year :D
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Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:29 am

Hey Lightning,.....are you saying your ash is lighter this year??? Those Jazzercise classes must be working! :lol:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
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Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: coalkirk On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:40 am

Dennis wrote:
Sunny Boy wrote:
Dennis wrote:I used to measure by weight,but this year i'm measuring by truck loads with this new coal :mad:



You truck out the ash ? That's a lot of coal burnin'. :shock:

Paul


It was ment as a joke,but iv'e been used to UAE coal and with this Blaschak coal it's more than twice the ash and half the heat,i'm very dissapointed :down:


Yes many of us were spoiled by the super low ash UAE Harmany but unfortunatley those days are gone. Wish I had stocked up with a TT load when it was available. :(
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
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Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:23 am

Rob R. wrote:Just because a certain coal source has a lower ash by weight figure than another doesn't mean you will have to empty the ash tub less frequently. Some coal produces ash that is fluffy and fills the tubs quickly...but they will be easier to carry. :)

Edit: I suppose this is might be harder to observe in hand-fired equipment since the ashes are usually ground to a powder...but in a stoker it can be very easy to see. Probably the biggest difference I observed when running a hand-fed was how easy the stove shook down when burning coal that produced fluffy white ash.


Up until this year, for me to get three days of ash in the 6 gallon bucket, I often had to shake the bucket to compact the ash. Shaking the bucket is not needed this year because even four days of ash doesn't quite reach the top.

So, not only is the weight less, the volume is less too.

Think I'll call my coal dealer and see if he bought from a different breaker this year.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
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Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: Lightning On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:25 am

Carbon12 wrote:Hey Lightning,.....are you saying your ash is lighter this year??? Those Jazzercise classes must be working! :lol:


Actually my ash is goin on a diet for New Year's resolution lol. I wanna loose 30 pounds. Too much grill and beers last summer!
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
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Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:36 am

Lee,

A cooking hint. If ya stand that grill back up level, ya won't need to have the burgers stick to the grill. Then ya can use leaner chop meat. :D

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
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Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:40 am

Hmmmm,.......stoker burgers,.......I like the sound of that! What do you think the drippings would do to the air holes in the grate??? :lol:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
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Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: tcalo On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:42 pm

Dennis wrote:I used to measure by weight,but this year i'm measuring by truck loads with this new coal :mad:

I'm drowning in ash this year. I switched suppliers...should've stuck with what worked! Heat output is great and I haven't had a single clinker, but the ash is killing me... :cry2: .
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Coal Stove
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anthracite

Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:53 pm

tcalo wrote:
Dennis wrote:I used to measure by weight,but this year i'm measuring by truck loads with this new coal :mad:

I'm drowning in ash this year. I switched suppliers...should've stuck with what worked! Heat output is great and I haven't had a single clinker, but the ash is killing me... :cry2: .


Yeah, and Long Island's not an easy place to get rid of stuff nobody wants either !

Unless you come up with an idea like the young couple renovating an apartment in Brooklyn. Carting company wanted too much to haul it away, . . . so they boxed up the turn-out plaster and Christmas wrapped it. Then they left the boxes in the lobby.

Someone stole it all ! :D

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
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Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: tcalo On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:46 pm

Sunny Boy wrote: Yeah, and Long Island's not an easy place to get rid of stuff nobody wants either !

Unless you come up with an idea like the young couple renovating an apartment in Brooklyn. Carting company wanted too much to haul it away, . . . so they boxed up the turn-out plaster and Christmas wrapped it. Then they left the boxes in the lobby.

Someone stole it all ! :D

Paul

Classic... :funny: . Your right about Long Island and their rules! Although my sanitation company is great, they take anything I put out for trash...no questions asked. Just don't let big brother see you!
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Coal Stove
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anthracite

Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: Wiz On: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:52 pm

tcalo wrote:
Dennis wrote:I used to measure by weight,but this year i'm measuring by truck loads with this new coal :mad:

I'm drowning in ash this year. I switched suppliers...should've stuck with what worked! Heat output is great and I haven't had a single clinker, but the ash is killing me... :cry2: .


I feel your pain.... I'm getting 2 one bushel tubs in 24 hours of burn... Ash is heavy.. Need advice on better coal suppliers, last year for Casey Kassa
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Re: Coal quality - ash by weight or volume ?

PostBy: hcarlow On: Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:45 pm

I have the same supplier , same kind of coal (bagged blacshak ) but what a difference from last year. The rice coal last year was nice and clean and got a 10 % ash content , this year the coal has lots of fines and I have almost a 15 % ash content . I am going to try a few bags of buck and if that works out I know what I will be buying next year . Maybe I just got spoiled last year, fortunately the 110 burns it okay , just more of it and not just because it is colder this year .
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