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Post by LW3 » Mon. Jan. 28, 2008 1:40 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:L, that's a true labor of love, a task that probably felt as if it was never going to get done. Please tell me more about how the computer system is adapted to the car. Is it the ECM from the Chevy? What do you do about the O2 sensor-I assume you use one. Do you have everything in the car connected as if the system was still in a 1995 vehicle? Did you have to install a SES light in the dash?

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WoodnCoal,
Sorry I didnt get this reply back sooner, been busy this week. Everything under the hood is 1995 except the radiator and ac evaporator. All sensors, harnesses, pcm, manifolds, even the battery and cables came from the 95. Inside the car I do have a SES light and ALDL connector. I kept the original cluster and wired the idiot lights to it so the original ones function correctly. I had to get an "abbott tachograph" which takes speed signal and drives the speedo with a electric motor. Also added a 2nd brake pedal switch for the lock up torque converter release. So no I don't have dim lights at idle, it starts everytime, idles perfect in traffic, uses 87 octane, and cruises at highway speeds no prob. :D


 
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Post by lincolnmania » Mon. Jan. 28, 2008 4:21 am

hey wood'ncoal come visit man! i'll take you for a spin in my hot rod lincoln!
this is box panther heaven (80-89 lincoln town car 79-91 crown victoria and grand marquis) i'm right next door to the hegins breaker too........my cars: 1986 lincoln town car with modified 5.0 ho and brakes/suspension (big brakes rear discs) from 98-02 cars and a 3.73 rear..........1989 crown victoria lx with a 5.0 ho transplant...........1986 crown victoria base model wagon (no wood no power goodies) a 87 volvo 760 wagon with a 5.0 ho/aod transplant.....etc.......i am the only person in the usa that specializes in modifying/restoring the boxes.....yea I know most of you are thinking that I am a turd polisher.....but alot of just do not care for the ride of the mustang....i had one fox mustang.....a 84 svo....i loved the car, hated to drive it.....these are the best cars on the planet if you ask me......i started out in 1995 when I bought a 84 crown vic cop car for 50 bucks for the motor for my 78 cougar......well I wanted to hear the 351 run before I pulled it out so I got the car running and next thing i'm driving it......realizing that ford fixed the handling on the big cars.....the hell with that pretty torino based bowl of jello lol.....well I ran the vic up to 279,000 miles and a I had a car surplus and I sold it to a friend for 500 bucks......he drove it hard till it wouldnt go anymore at 453,000.........i have 200,000 miles on my town car with 25,000 on the engine.....and I get 22 mpg highway and it runs high 15's in the 1/4 mile......not bad for a 4200 lb car
heres some pics yes that is dee snider!
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my 89 vic and a customers 88 lincoln dubbed the superlincoln
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the 86 vic battlewagon.....hauls plywood with ease hehe going to get a 5.0 ho soon
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the v8 volvo wagon
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Post by 69Drag » Tue. Jan. 29, 2008 6:26 am

Lincolnmania,
I've always been a Ford guy but it takes a true Ford fanatic to be dealing with those big sleds. You've Definitely picked a unique family of cars to fix up. 15's are decent numbers for a big box like that. You need some more cubic inches or maybe a supercharger!! Get that sled in the 13's and really turn some heads. Ever convert one to a manual trans? Now that'd be cool.

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Post by lincolnmania » Tue. Jan. 29, 2008 10:25 am

69Drag wrote:Lincolnmania,
I've always been a Ford guy but it takes a true Ford fanatic to be dealing with those big sleds. You've Definitely picked a unique family of cars to fix up. 15's are decent numbers for a big box like that. You need some more cubic inches or maybe a supercharger!! Get that sled in the 13's and really turn some heads. Ever convert one to a manual trans? Now that'd be cool.

John
thanks john!
a supercharger is on my list, but I get a new leisure line stove first hehe....... you guys would be suprised what the mighty 302 can do with some work.......a member of my forums has a 81 colony park with a carbed 302 and some mods......his car is runs consistent 14.08's........the superlincoln in the one pic is a beast too.....but i'm not allowed to drag race it......i installed a 1996 for explorer crate engine in that lincoln with an automatic overdrive with 4r70w planetaries (called an aod wide ratio) I have never installed a 5 spped in a panther yet, but soon, in a 84 grand marquis with a 460 stroked to 514 cubes.......the trans cost him 2 grand tremec tko.......the mustang t5's do not hold up well in the big cars....a few have tried and failed usually at the track the crown victoria ran a 16.30 at numidia last summer it's a 180,000 mile 302 ho with a mystery mile aod and a 3.55 rear.......havent raced the wagons yet......volvo has traction problems (4.10 open volvo rear)

 
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Post by 69Drag » Tue. Jan. 29, 2008 4:51 pm

Linc,
"514", now you're talkin' !. I'd like to have one of those strokers myself. I'll just have to make due with the wimpy little 460 in my '69 for now. I had a 5.0 GT for 12 years. It was a daily driver & weekend racer. It ran 12.40 @111mph with a tremec crash box (some refer to it as pro-shifted). That was on 8" slicks with a 5000 rpm launch. I know what you're saying about broken parts. I've always liked stick cars. I've got a Jerico 4-speed with a "Long" shifter that I've been itching to try out. Good luck with the projects.

John

 
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Post by e.alleg » Sat. Feb. 02, 2008 10:10 am

Stick that 460 in a Zephyr and she'll go. My buddy had a Pinto with a 460 and fogger nitrous system. The front of the doors would open 3" due to the flex. I took a ride with a g-force computer hooked up it went 9.8 at 145 in the 1/4 mile according to the box. that was the fastest car I ever rode in, you could roll along at 60 miles an hour, a yuppie would pull alongside and with a stab of the gas and your head would shake and it was all you could do to breath and they were left waaaaayyyyyyy back. :devil: For racing automatic is better, I raced both and stick cars were harder on the drivetrain.

 
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Post by lincolnmania » Sat. Feb. 02, 2008 9:59 pm

the big block idea is appealing, but a turbo diesel that runs on powdered coal would be more fun!.......just think....back the truck into a culm pile, bring it home and grind it into powder and run it......maybe in 20 yrs haha


 
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Post by LsFarm » Sun. Feb. 03, 2008 3:55 pm

I've been holding off but here they are:
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Toy box barn, inside

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different view inside

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My best car: '33 Pierce Arrow, 366cuin straight-8

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Dodge Diesel truck runs in the low 13's, 500rwhp, ~980ft# of torque.

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Post by av8r » Sun. Feb. 03, 2008 4:27 pm

LS..do they get driven or are they hangar queens?

Nice collection.

 
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Post by LsFarm » Sun. Feb. 03, 2008 5:48 pm

The Pierce Arrow goes to a Pierce Arrow national meet just about every year, last year NW Massachusetts. This year Lexington Ky. It won't go in '09, the meet is in San Diego. I trailer to the meets, but usually drive around 5-800 miles on the tours over four days.
The '57 got driven a lot, but has been sold, the '64 Skylark Convertible gets a thousand a year or so on it. the '55 Crown vic hasn't been driven much, I need to get it dug out and driven this summer. The '64 bird hasn't been driven much lately either.
The big problem is that when I work, I drive 55 miles to the airport and park my vehicle in an airport public parking lot. I'm not taking a collector car there, Then when I'm back home, I'm so busy with work on the farm and in the shop, that I don't leave the farm much.
Another problem is that the farm is on a dirt road, and the damn county road commission puts calcium cloride on the road for dust control... well that stuff is worse than the salt in the winter !! calcium cloride will just eat through steel, at least salt takes awhile...
So every time it rains, the road gets wet, and stays wet/damp for day 'cause of the Calcium cloride in/on the dirt and gravel. So I have to pick and choose my days to drive my collectables.

I'm not sure I'd want the road to be paved, but I sure would prefer dust to rust or just have the county go back to used oil for dust control. I'm currious where they got the used oil in the past, and what is the oil being used for now.. recycled?? Burnt??

BTW: the '64 'bird is for sale, Georgia car, 59K miles, 390v8, all options but no cruise, leather, swing-away steering wheel, cold air, $9500 takes it away.
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Post by av8r » Sun. Feb. 03, 2008 5:56 pm

I'm glad you get a chance to drive them a bit. I have a friend who is a collector. I'll mention the Tbird to him. He has some nice old Lincoln 12 cyl sedans among others.

 
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Post by CoalHeat » Sun. Feb. 03, 2008 8:29 pm

I have the same problem with my cars, I don't get enough of a chance to drive them, let alone work on them.
I had a '64 Skylark, 4 door, though. Always wanted a T-Bird. There's something I can't identify on the left side of the 1st photo, I think. Another car?
The first car I remember riding in was my parent's '55 Ford, it was a Fairlane Tudor Sedan, V8 with dual exhaust. I love the backlighted speedo.

 
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Post by rberq » Sun. Feb. 03, 2008 9:57 pm

The "silly thing" coaledsweat referenced is at the Cole Transportation Museum, Bangor, Maine, about 80 miles from me. I have been there a few times. Below is another link to more info on the coal truck. The scissors mechanism for raising the dump body is obvious. The raising of the rest of the body, they say, was to allow easy access for maintenance. Mack made only 800 of the units. (The coal truck was a conversion of the original.)

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Post by lincolnmania » Mon. Feb. 04, 2008 3:00 am

ooh a 55 crown vic!........worked on a 56 a yrs ago when I worked at meineke......the customer wanted decent gas shocks.........79-02 crown victoria shocks are a perfect fit

 
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Post by LsFarm » Mon. Feb. 04, 2008 6:39 pm

The '55 crown vic is a fairly rare one, it is one of 200 'production' Vics set up as factory hot-rods... The story goes that the new Chevy V8 was kicking Ford's butt in the HP race, the Ford 272 and 292 'Y' block wasn't cutting it in the 'Vic'. The Pikes Peak hill climb was the big manufacturer vs manufacturer competition event... and then 200 cars was the minimum to be a 'production model'.
So Ford made 200 Crown Vics with the 312 'Y' block engine, the 'Thunderbird' version. With a 4bbl carb, solid lifters, dual exhaust and 4.11 gears. Mine is a Fordomatic 3spd auto. It runs very strong, too strong for the tires, and non-posi rearend, it can light up the 'peg-leg' rear tire with ease..

Need to get it cleaned up and driven, sitting around does them no good.

The car in the left side of the first photo is this Crown Vic.

rberg, since you are close to Bangor, have you ever gone to Acadia Island [bar harbor] to the southwest side of the island to the 'Seal Cove Auto Museum' ? If not make a day of it ... it is one of the permier early auto collections open to the public. 6-7 Pierce arrows, Chadwicks, Packards, Marmons, RollsRoyce, Kissel, Stutz, and at least 40 early motorcycles too, Well worth spending a day and then get a Lobster 'shore lunch' at one of the lobster shacks.

Man I miss my flights up to Bar Harbor !!!

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