Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:29 am

Do the over the fire air control knobs on the main door of the Basement #4 function, or are they only for show?

Ditto for the ash door air control knobs for under the fire air control?

Does the Basement #4 have air tubes along the sides of the fire chamber as for the DS Circulator models?
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: KingCoal On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:00 am

AFAIK, the over air knobs on the #4 door are functional as where the same on the former newstyle champion.

likewise that stoves in this class, that have a bi metal intake regulator, the under fire knobs on the ash door are not functional.

the #4 is a slab side stove as it relys on the sheet metal surround to create circulation.
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: Coalfire On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:05 pm

yes over fire knobs function
no ash knobs do not function
no circulator tubes



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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:18 pm

Thank you KingCoal and Coalfire!
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: KingCoal On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:26 pm

no problem, are you in the final round of style and make of potential candidates ?
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:48 am

KingCoal wrote:no problem, are you in the final round of style and make of potential candidates ?


Yes! In the end there are not that many hopper fed candidates to choose from.
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:03 pm

You will lose the thermostat but many antiques had a magazine and you would gain great styling if the stove is installed in the living space.
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:52 pm

franco b wrote:You will lose the thermostat but many antiques had a magazine and you would gain great styling if the stove is installed in the living space.


If it goes in the upstairs living room it will be a Keystoker HFH90. If it goes downstairs the front runner is the DS Machine DS-1600.
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:58 pm

lsayre wrote:
franco b wrote:You will lose the thermostat but many antiques had a magazine and you would gain great styling if the stove is installed in the living space.


If it goes in the upstairs living room it will be a Keystoker HFH90. If it goes downstairs the front runner is the DS Machine DS-1600.


Just curious, Does stove need to be new, as in never previously used?
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:20 pm

McGiever wrote:Just curious, Does stove need to be new, as in never previously used?


It will most likely be new.
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: strat0 On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:18 pm

So... as you can see... I have the DSM Basement #4... I think this is the 4th year I have owned mine.... for heat and ease of use... maintenance... I have to say, I don't see how it could get any easier. I love mine! I am glad I did my research when purchasing. This forum is proof... search for ppl having any kind of problems with any DSM... they are rock solid. Easy to use. Great heat out put. What kind of heating appliance did you finally decide upon?
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: rustyrelics On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:43 pm

lsayre wrote:Do the over the fire air control knobs on the main door of the Basement #4 function, or are they only for show?

Ditto for the ash door air control knobs for under the fire air control?

Does the Basement #4 have air tubes along the sides of the fire chamber as for the DS Circulator models?





if the fire and ash doors have spinner damper vents that actually open and allow air over top of fire and under the fire grates, yes they will function. they would be there in case you want to disregard the bimetallic control and fixed secondary air if so equipped.
for instance if the bimetal malfunctioned and caused the stove to fire erratically, or the linkage chain broke, you have the manual controls to fall back on. the same goes for stoves equipped with a combustion flue or oxygen afterburner. you can always disregard the lower combustion flue and burn it using the top direct draft damper outlet. I ran a stove with a bimetal tstat draft control and it worked ok for 4 years.. but I'd prefer manual controls. this way I'm in charge of stove efficiency, not the little piece of bimetal.
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:59 pm

strat0 wrote:So... as you can see... I have the DSM Basement #4... I think this is the 4th year I have owned mine.... for heat and ease of use... maintenance... I have to say, I don't see how it could get any easier. I love mine! I am glad I did my research when purchasing. This forum is proof... search for ppl having any kind of problems with any DSM... they are rock solid. Easy to use. Great heat out put. What kind of heating appliance did you finally decide upon?


It will be a Keystoker HFH-90 if it goes into the living room, and either a Basement #4 or a DS-1600 if it goes in the basement.
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Re: Questions regarding the DS Machine Basement #4

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:20 pm

Well,over 50 my memory just ain't what it used to be,i thought DS,Hitzer,Harmon all had an auto draft/temp control ,Alaska has it as an option on the Kodiak model,i thought this was a good thing to prevent having to babysit the draft.I do remember that the ash door knobs on the DS Circulator are just for pretty as per DS info
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