Follow the bouncing red line

Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:17 pm

Anyone else getting vertigo watching their manometer with these wind gusts?

I'm not on a hill, just down in a wide valley with a leaky old house. The wind gusts have the mano red oil swinging quickly from .03 to .06. If this thing could trace a line on a roll of paper, it'd probably look like a California quake. :shock:

Wonder if F. Fred has been blown off that hill of his yet. :roll: Hey Fred, . . if ya see Dorothy and Toto, say hello. :D

Paul
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:30 pm

Nope, still here :clap: toothy Seen em headed south this morning SB--damn fools, hurricane country--I've got no mano, but my collection of wind chimes are having a blast--plus my Flag is flat out to the north--water level continues to go down for the moment--on occasion, I can hear that wind whistling past my MPD & I'm especially glad I've got it on days like this--I'm sure my bi-metallic thermo is dealing with it all real well--the baro on my--not used-- furnace is playin havoc with itself--open, closed, open, closed, etc. etc. 60* out--72 continuously inside :)
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:44 pm

Glad to hear your ok over there !

I thought by now at least your fingers would be hurtin', what with all that trying to hang onto the door frame. :D

Paul
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Photog200 On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:12 pm

No winds here in Upstate and the temps are 33°. The ice is starting to melt off the trees now...sounds like it is still raining.
Randy
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Lightning On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:24 pm

Yes! My barometric door is hammering closed to full open! -.01 to -.06 :shock:
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:36 pm

Photog200 wrote:No winds here in Upstate and the temps are 33°. The ice is starting to melt off the trees now...sounds like it is still raining.
Randy


Randy, that's strange and Interesting at the same time !

I talked to someone in Saratoga Springs this morning and they're getting the same weather as you are.

Yet Lee, Fred and I are spread out east to west across the state, south of you and the wind is blowing like mad from the south since I got up 6 hours ago.

Did somebody put up a wall along the Erie canal ? :shock:

Paul
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:47 pm

I'm finding that for the most part as my barometric damper swings open and closed my manometer is holding at 0.04". That is, until the really big wind gusts come and the baro damper goes 100% open for a long duration, and the vacuum sound can be heard, and then that's when something really odd happens. The barometric damper door is 100% open, and the draft falls to 0.02" as measured directly above the flue discharge at the stove. That's not supposed to happen. The opposite is supposed to happen. Could this be a consequence of the house being too tight?
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:52 pm

I think the mano reading would be the same whether the house is tight, or not ... because it's measuring the pull of the chimney, and not the volume of air moving through it. That's just how it looks in my foggy brain ... ;)

We've had gusts up to 30 here - that's pretty high considering we're sheltered by hills & trees. Seems like it's dying down a bit now though.

Still have the bag over the baro though, otherwise we get the stink & CO alarm. Draft has dropped from .05" to .02" due to the warm weather. With the baro covered it'll whip from 0 - .13" when it's windy ... but at least we're not getting gasses out the hopper.
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Photog200 On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:00 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
Photog200 wrote:No winds here in Upstate and the temps are 33°. The ice is starting to melt off the trees now...sounds like it is still raining.
Randy


Randy, that's strange and Interesting at the same time !

I talked to someone in Saratoga Springs this morning and they're getting the same weather as you are.

Yet Lee, Fred and I are spread out east to west across the state, south of you and the wind is blowing like mad from the south since I got up 6 hours ago.

Did somebody put up a wall along the Erie canal ? :shock:

Paul

This is pretty much what the meteorologist was calling for last night. Further North, they were suppose to get more ice.

Today's trivia information is: If you hold down your alt key and type the following numbers you will get the "degree" symbol. Alt+0176
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:00 pm

As a friend said, "Air is lazier then a teenager at 5 am Saturday morning. It will always take the path of least resistance. "

Maybe with the wind gusts holding open the baro fully and longer, the stove path is a bit more resistance then the baro and the stove is losing some draft after a certain amount of time ?

Paul
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:05 pm

Forget the bag Smitty, what you need is an Erie canal on the south side of the house. :D

Paul
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Lightning On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:07 pm

lsayre wrote:I'm finding that for the most part as my barometric damper swings open and closed my manometer is holding at 0.04". That is, until the really big wind gusts come and the baro damper goes 100% open for a long duration, and the vacuum sound can be heard, and then that's when something really odd happens. The barometric damper door is 100% open, and the draft falls to 0.02" as measured directly above the flue discharge at the stove. That's not supposed to happen. The opposite is supposed to happen. Could this be a consequence of the house being too tight?


Yes I think yer right about that. Resulting from a hard wind hitting the house just the right way. The wind pressure against the house may be different at the chimney top which would make for a precarious situation for the pressure at basement level. I'm guessing.
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Photog200 On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:15 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
Photog200 wrote:No winds here in Upstate and the temps are 33°. The ice is starting to melt off the trees now...sounds like it is still raining.
Randy


Randy, that's strange and Interesting at the same time !

I talked to someone in Saratoga Springs this morning and they're getting the same weather as you are.

Yet Lee, Fred and I are spread out east to west across the state, south of you and the wind is blowing like mad from the south since I got up 6 hours ago.

Did somebody put up a wall along the Erie canal ? :shock:

Paul

I just went out to put more wood on the cook stove and the smoke coming out the chimney says the breeze is coming out of the North now. Earlier it was from the S and SE.
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:29 pm

And I just checked too. We're still at 62 degrees. The wind gusts have dropped some and the clouds are now coming from the WSW.

Mano has calmed down. Now, it's only fluctuating a hair either side of .04.

Paul
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Re: Follow the bouncing red line

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:31 pm

Randy,
"Today's trivia information is: If you hold down your alt key and type the following numbers you will get the "degree" symbol. Alt+0176 "

Can't get it to work for me. :(

Paul
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