saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: coalpuppy On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:55 pm

...and that's just it! Stoves like the Moores 403B are quite functional but add so much more in the way of aesthetics of a bygone age. I have more than a few antique heaters. It's what I do so I get enjoyment plus practicality. If you have an older home and are worried about 72 degrees when the outside is zero, put yourself in a stoker hot water boiler and be done with it. The heat will be central, even and you will love it! Of course, it will cost a few bucks. In my opinion, there is no finer heat than coal fired hot water!
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Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: wsherrick On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:24 pm

For the burn times you want then, A Glenwood No 8 or equivalent. A Crawford 40 or equivalent. In an Oak Stove. A Modern Glenwood 118 with indirect back pipe. A Glenwood Oak 40 with indirect back or equivalent.
There are many stoves in this category.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: KingCoal On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:28 pm

thanks both coalpuppy and William,

not into the whole electric, pumps etc. thing, will have to look into more of the big baseheaters
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Riteway # 37, Comforter Stove Works
Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
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Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:44 pm

wsherrick wrote:For the burn times you want then, A Glenwood No 8 or equivalent. A Crawford 40 or equivalent. In an Oak Stove. A Modern Glenwood 118 with indirect back pipe. A Glenwood Oak 40 with indirect back or equivalent.
There are many stoves in this category.



wsherrick

What kind of burn times are you getting on your Crawford? I have started doing 24 hour tendings with my #2 (9am to 9 am) and she is still pleanty warm (325-350f) and has no problem revving back up on reload. Truely amazing....
ONEDOLLAR
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: 2014 Chubby Prototype
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford #2 Base Heater
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Anthracite

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: wsherrick On: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:20 pm

ONEDOLLAR wrote:
wsherrick wrote:For the burn times you want then, A Glenwood No 8 or equivalent. A Crawford 40 or equivalent. In an Oak Stove. A Modern Glenwood 118 with indirect back pipe. A Glenwood Oak 40 with indirect back or equivalent.
There are many stoves in this category.



wsherrick

What kind of burn times are you getting on your Crawford? I have started doing 24 hour tendings with my #2 (9am to 9 am) and she is still pleanty warm (325-350f) and has no problem revving back up on reload. Truely amazing....


24 hour burns are easy with the Crawford 40. It just keeps going and going and as you have found out, as long as there is fuel in these stoves they will burn. I can easily maintain 450 degrees on it for a straight 24 hours. I noticed also that you go a good bit longer on ash pan emptying as well. There is nothing but powder to take out and so I can go two or three days between ash pan cleanings.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: coalpuppy On: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:44 pm

One more thing...
If you like the older stoves, you may consider one of the larger base burners. These gems were really ahead of their time with the base heating types utilizing revertible flues that extracted much of the heat from the flue gases before exiting up the chimney. They were fairly efficient, to say the least. They incorporate top loading gravity type magazines which I am confident will give you the burn times you require and be absolutely beautiful in the process. I am in the process of restoring a Rathbone & Sard Brilliant 90 and it is quite a piece. The pot will hold every bit as much coal as the Moores and have that much again in reserve. The fire is viewable from 180 degrees. In the glory days of the coal stove, these were the kind that graced the parlors of the aristocracy.
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Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: KingCoal On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:21 am

yep, if i can find one, i think the Crawford 40 is the stove for me.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Riteway # 37, Comforter Stove Works
Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
Other Heating: none

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:28 am

Where is pic's of that Brilliant 90 ??? thanks
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
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Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: KingCoal On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:43 am

i've been searching part of the morning and not found any pics of that stove either.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Riteway # 37, Comforter Stove Works
Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
Other Heating: none

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: KingCoal On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:31 pm

does anyone know of any diagrams or exploded views of the Crawford 40 ?

or photo's during a restoration ?

thanks,
steve
KingCoal
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Riteway # 37, Comforter Stove Works
Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
Other Heating: none

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:50 pm

KingCoal wrote:does anyone know of any diagrams or exploded views of the Crawford 40 ?

or photo's during a restoration ?

thanks,
steve


Stay tuned, you will have what you are asking for in an hour or two.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: KingCoal On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:54 pm

you are not only a scholar my friend, but a true gentleman as well

thanks,
steve
KingCoal
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Riteway # 37, Comforter Stove Works
Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
Other Heating: none

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:01 pm

KingCoal wrote:you are not only a scholar my friend, but a true gentleman as well

thanks,
steve


Believe it or not I was halfway through making the Crawford video that people have been asking for, but; the battery died and now I have to get ready to go to work. I will try again tomorrow.
I got all dressed up with no place to go it seems.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: KingCoal On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:27 pm

no critical time frame on my part, all things in their time.
KingCoal
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Riteway # 37, Comforter Stove Works
Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
Other Heating: none

Re: saw a Moore's 403B for sale today...NO i ain't tellin'

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:45 pm

Back to the original post, where is the 403B :?:

Is the 403 in good condition, if not is it salvageable?

Are you buying the stove, others on this board may be interested. The cast iron filigree is more delicate than the steel body of a modern stove so for this reason and many others, fewer 403's have survived than Glenwoods for example.
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Other Heating: Oil and Natural Gas.

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