Burning Coal in Kansas

Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: skip On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:54 pm

My wife and I are looking to install a dual fuel stove for heating our house. Have not decided on what kind yet. Currently have just a wood stove. A couple of friends in Iowa have coal stoves they use and I figured why not. They burn hard coal in base-burners. I have called around and I found I can get Bit coal for $65/ ton locally. The mine-foreman I talked to said the Bit coal they are in right now is currently about 10k btu and 3% sulfur. Not sure how the 10k btu breaks down, I figurer per unit of coal. Does this sound right?

I live in rural area so a little smoke and smell will not be a problem. I have wood but would like to heat the house with the stove full time and not restock the stove every few hours with wood. The winters are not as harsh as back East so I figure 2-tons would do me for almost two seasons.

Thoughts on this type of Bit coal?

Thanks

Skip Schupp
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Baseburners & Antiques: Sterling Base Heater All-Fuel K-6
Coal Size/Type: Hard Coal, stove
Other Heating: Wood stove, Pro-Pain
Stove/Furnace Make: Sill Stoveworks

Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:57 pm

How many cords of wood do you burn a season?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:42 pm

I would first see if you can get "stoker coal" anywhere. If you can then I would see if you can find a used stoker and put it under a hand fed furnace or find a stoker stove like a combustioneer, stokermatic, or firetender. IMO this is the best way to go because once you get it figured out you simply set the thermostat, add coal to the hopper, and remove the clinker/ash and there little to no smoke.

I you cant get "stoker coal" I think the best option would be a "hot blast stove" please note those are not the junk US stove company hotblast. They are old stoves built to burn bituminous coal.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: combustioneer model 77B
Coal Size/Type: pea stoker/Ohio bituminous


Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: skip On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:49 pm

Well honestly I never have really counted. I just have been clearing out all the dead and or downed trees on my place. That has worked for 10 years. I figure about 2 and half cords per season. To buy good wood around here it would be about 100 to 125 a cord.
skip
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Sterling Base Heater All-Fuel K-6
Coal Size/Type: Hard Coal, stove
Other Heating: Wood stove, Pro-Pain
Stove/Furnace Make: Sill Stoveworks

Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:56 pm

Damn skip, that's not much wood for a season--I went through 8 full cord with 2800 sq. 250 yr old farm house as tight as she'll get with post & beam! How big is your house & lay-out? Welcome to the Forum my friend & you & yours have a very Merry Christmas:)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: skip On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:59 pm

Will look into sources of "stoker coal". Well I have been reading on this site for a while and had figured an old Hot blast stove was the way to go.

I should also mention we live in an Earthbearm home. It is all one level and about 1800sq ft. The stove would be located in the living room, which is really just a part of one great big room with the kitchen and dinning room part of it. All the bedrooms are off the main room with no hallways. It is pretty efficient. I am really looking to have a constant source of heat throughout the whole season without having to restart a fire each morning or night when I get home.
skip
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Sterling Base Heater All-Fuel K-6
Coal Size/Type: Hard Coal, stove
Other Heating: Wood stove, Pro-Pain
Stove/Furnace Make: Sill Stoveworks

Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:28 pm

Skip

There is a mine not too far from you in OK. PHOENIX COAL is the firms name. Last I looked they did sell 50 lb bags.

A "WARM MORNING" brand of coal stove would be perfect for you. They are availble on places like craiglslist for less than $300 or so depending on the size.

Hope this helps and btw...... GO SOONERS!!!!!!!!

http://www.phoenixcoal.com/products.htm
ONEDOLLAR
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: 2014 Chubby Prototype
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford #2 Base Heater
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Anthracite

Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:15 pm

10k is 10,000 btu. I would recommend going with the Oklahoma coal that One Dollar sent a link to. 12,000 btu is way more efficient than 10,000. also sulfur doesn't add any heat, so the lower sulfur means more carbon and more heat from every lump.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harmon Mark III
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite pea and nut mix. Bituminous lump

Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: Berlin On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:29 am

well, DM, sulfur is 8000 btu's /lb , so, it produces some heat... ;)

Give the local coal a try, you want the largest chunks you can get and you want a relatively big stove (this coal will clinker if you fire it too hot), like a big warm morning or DS machine type box stove w/ secondary air. you want 8" flue min. size (that coal will be sooty) and make sure you bank the fire side to side or front to back (do a search on here of your not sure what I mean, it's been talked about numerous times as the proper way to fire many bituminous coals).
Berlin
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal

Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:44 am

"We're not in Kansas anymore,Toto"......Like Hell we're not,Dorothy! Thanx to Skip,we're now right in the thick of it! Good to have you aboard and Merry Christmas! Burning the Bit as a Newbie will be a lot easier for you 'cause you've taken the time to read,learn and sign up to get even more good advice and planning before wasting hard earned dollars. Take your time,get some coal to try and keep the feedback coming here. :up:
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni !

Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:39 pm

Berlin wrote:well, DM, sulfur is 8000 btu's /lb , so, it produces some heat... ;)


Wow!!! I never knew that? :oops:
Duengeon master
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harmon Mark III
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite pea and nut mix. Bituminous lump

Re: Burning Coal in Kansas

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:51 pm

Duengeon master wrote:
Berlin wrote:well, DM, sulfur is 8000 btu's /lb , so, it produces some heat... ;)


Wow!!! I never knew that? :oops:

Yes sir, sulfur unites with oxygen to make sulfur dioxide along with other compounds. Its the burnt match mixed with rotten egg smell in the coal exhaust... :D
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix


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