I may need talking down

Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: jubileejerry On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:32 pm

I think in your heart you already know what to do...it's a very pretty stove, and if it's in good condition, you'd get a lot of enjoyment from it. On the economical side, if you pay a fair price for it , there is basically never going to be any more depreciation left in it. In other words, in my opinion, with care on your part, it will never cost you much of anything to own it. Pay a fair price, use it, take care of it and when you're done with it, sell it and get a majority of your money back. Not many things in this world are like that. Jerry
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: Photog200 On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:42 pm

jubileejerry wrote:I think in your heart you already know what to do...it's a very pretty stove, and if it's in good condition, you'd get a lot of enjoyment from it. On the economical side, if you pay a fair price for it , there is basically never going to be any more depreciation left in it. In other words, in my opinion, with care on your part, it will never cost you much of anything to own it. Pay a fair price, use it, take care of it and when you're done with it, sell it and get a majority of your money back. Not many things in this world are like that. Jerry

This is a good way to look at it...as long a my insurance company will agree with the solid fuel and gas, that is another question. He originally wanted two grand for this stove and has come down a bit...I think it is a bit more than fair just yet.
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: PJT On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:43 pm

On Emery's website he mentions something about it being illegal to vent the coal smoke and the gas exhaust from the oven up the same flue-so he disconnects the gas from the oven leaving it coal/wood only......but he leaves the gas burners in the cooktop.....its not clear from his website if those are local (RI) regulations or National....but Im sure he could explain it a lot better than I.
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: Photog200 On: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:48 pm

PJT wrote:On Emery's website he mentions something about it being illegal to vent the coal smoke and the gas exhaust from the oven up the same flu-so he disconnects the gas from the oven leaving it coal/wood only......but he leaves the gas burners in the cooktop.....its not clear from his website if those are local (RI) regulations or National....but Im sure he could explain it a lot better than I.

That is exactly what my concerns were...will have to look into it. This would definitely be the answer to my problems though. Get rid of the electric!
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:06 am

I say buy it!! You can never have enough!
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: Photog200 On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:11 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:I say buy it!! You can never have enough!
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I would agree...I already have this one...
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: DieselBob On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:20 am

Photog200 wrote:
DieselBob wrote:For Gods sake's man don't do it....There I tried. :D Hope you enjoy the “new” stove. I just finished reading all 12 pages of the other thread about cooking with coal and really wish I had made a couple changes when I was building this house. At the time I had no idea about the wonderful world of coal. Cooking, heating and DHW. If I had only known 14 years ago.

I miss that thread...

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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: dlj On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:25 am

PJT wrote:On Emery's website he mentions something about it being illegal to vent the coal smoke and the gas exhaust from the oven up the same flu-so he disconnects the gas from the oven leaving it coal/wood only......but he leaves the gas burners in the cooktop.....its not clear from his website if those are local (RI) regulations or National....but Im sure he could explain it a lot better than I.


I don't think NFPA allows the same flue for both. It would be interesting however, given that the appliance was designed to run both into one flue... You'd have to look at the regs carefully. I think you need to read NFPA 211....

dj
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:27 am

Dear Randy,Please don't buy that attractive piece of bygone era kitchen cooking and baking. If you do,you'll shoot your eye out,Kid ! Signed: Santa :lol: ................There....That oughta put an end to this madness once and for all ! :nono:
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:53 am

As far as being legal, if your house is old enough to have one of these when built couldn't you say it's original to the house (ie. grandfathered)? Very pretty stove. I know I would buy it if I had the funds and a place to put it.. Good luck. Matt
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: rubicondave33 On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:09 am

What a beauty! We use a Bengal dual fuel stove at our camp and really love it! :up:
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:41 am

Photog200 wrote:
PJT wrote:On Emery's website he mentions something about it being illegal to vent the coal smoke and the gas exhaust from the oven up the same flu-so he disconnects the gas from the oven leaving it coal/wood only......but he leaves the gas burners in the cooktop.....its not clear from his website if those are local (RI) regulations or National....but Im sure he could explain it a lot better than I.

That is exactly what my concerns were...will have to look into it. This would definitely be the answer to my problems though. Get rid of the electric!


"Off Grid" baby!!! :punk: shes a beauty!
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: Photog200 On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:32 am

dlj wrote:
PJT wrote:On Emery's website he mentions something about it being illegal to vent the coal smoke and the gas exhaust from the oven up the same flu-so he disconnects the gas from the oven leaving it coal/wood only......but he leaves the gas burners in the cooktop.....its not clear from his website if those are local (RI) regulations or National....but Im sure he could explain it a lot better than I.


I don't think NFPA allows the same flue for both. It would be interesting however, given that the appliance was designed to run both into one flue... You'd have to look at the regs carefully. I think you need to read NFPA 211....

dj

I would not mind turning the gas off to the oven. I would only use the oven during the winter with wood or coal. The thing I want is the gas burners so I can cook during the summer months. If I wanted to bake something I would just start a fire in the cook stove in the garage so as to not heat up the house.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base burner & Geneva Oak Andes #517
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:46 am

Are solid fuel stoves intended to be turned on and off as needed for cooking, or are they best ran continuously?
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Re: I may need talking down

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:49 am

Randy,
Ha, you know that if you had to ask, . . you were gonna buy it anyway! :D Sounds like it would look terrific in your kitchen. If the grates are good, GO, GO, GO man ! Just that if you invite some of these guys for dinner, chain that thing to the floor first ! :D

I've heard that dual fuel with gas should be upgraded, but there are many of the stove resto-shops doing that work. Can you use it as is and upgrade the gas system later ?

Hope it works out well for ya !

Paul
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