WL110 not keeping up

WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: a1harnish On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:43 am

I've had my house set at 74° for the last two months. Woke up and the house was 69°. I'm not sure what it could be ? Any help would be great !
a1harnish
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: WL110
Stove/Furnace Make: looking for leisure line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110 STOKER

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:46 am

Where are you located? How does the fire look? We need more details. :D
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:50 am

yes, more details. I don't know about WL110's but from other threads it seems that coaltrol settings, how long the stoker fires, temps, draft readings, ash condition, heat load on the unit, etc. will be needed to help resolve the issue.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

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Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:05 am

The boiler could need a cleaning, feed rate adjustment, or both.

If you don't already have a copy of the manual handy, print it out. http://leisurelinestoves.com/files/79869225.pdf

Step 1. Read the entire manual.

Step 2. Perform a full cleaning.

Step 3. Follow the manual instructions to setup your full-output fire (also check draft).

Step 4. Report back with the results.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:05 am

Is the boiler just used for making heat or do you use it to make domestic hot water (DHW) as well?

Many times the btu's required to heat hot water for the faucets and showers consumes a much larger percentage of the boilers output than was calculated.
EarthWindandFire
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Lil' Heater.
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer model 75. (sold)
Other Heating: Oil Furnace and Kerosene Heaters.

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: johnniecuse On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:07 pm

Does your unit have the larger 65 cfm combustion air fan? This was a problem last year beacuse the original fan was undersized.
johnniecuse
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line 110K Boiler
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:10 pm

Also make sure you have a full grate of fire when calling for heat. If you do not have a full fire refer to the setup procedure again.
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: theo On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:32 pm

You didn't change to a different brand of coal lately ?
theo
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 2

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: 711 On: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:46 pm

I cleaned the fines out from under the fire ramp I saw a marked improvement this year. I will say I have yet to contact LL about the new fan, but I will say after two years I have had very few issues with the unit. I have seen coal vary ton to ton from the same brand quite considerably also.
711
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Liesure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: LL110

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:07 am

I guess he fixed it???
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: a1harnish On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:52 am

Sorry its been a crazy couple of weeks, I work at Ups and have not had time to update you! I cleaned the 110 and that worked till now. The last two mornings it was 72 °. I just got the unit installed before work got crazy and I never burned coal before!!! I'm enjoying not spending $500 a month on oil and our house is a warm 74° not 70 ° like when burning oil!! :)
The 110 has the 65 Cfm fan
Not heating dhw
Full grate of fire
Hl 180- LL 160
draft is .002-.003
65 ft of base board
House is not insulated well (1970s)
Need new windows :mad:
One other question I had is I just bought a new thermostat that is requiring a C wire or common (24 vac) . Can I wire that into the triple aquastat? I can usually figure stuff out but not sure? if so where? I think I might need to get a transformer? Thanks so much!!!!
ITS BEEN A PLEASURE BUYING LL!!!! :) THANKS MATT & DAVE!!!!
a1harnish
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: WL110
Stove/Furnace Make: looking for leisure line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110 STOKER

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:01 am

Common does come from x'fmr, same x'fmr that the Red comes from. :)
Could be the aquastat (x'fmr), if no other zone relays are the x'fmr Red.
McGiever
 
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
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Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:12 am

Perhaps you don't have enough baseboard installed. When the house was in the 60's did the boiler reach 180 degrees?

Did the house stay comfortable with your previous oil boiler?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: dh1200s On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:44 am

One other question I had is I just bought a new thermostat that is requiring a C wire or common (24 vac) . Can I wire that into the triple aquastat? I can usually figure stuff out but not sure? if so where? I think I might need to get a transformer? Thanks so much!!!!


a1harnish

I have 3M-50 Wireless Stats installed before I purchased/installed my WL110.

I picked up 24VAC from my Taco SR503 switching relay I use for pump control to power those stats.

I'm not sure if you can pick up 24VAC from your triple aquastat (L7224) on the WL110 I need to turn over some rocks......maybe go with a seperate 24VAC wall wart transformer to power up your thermostat for now.....trip to Radio Shack.

See this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a_f2_iAW1U&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLE1A61036145003E7

What stat are you installing?

Good luck.........Dick
dh1200s
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL-110
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: HS-Tarm 202
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000

Re: WL110 not keeping up

PostBy: a1harnish On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:47 pm

The house did stay warm on oil !!! But it was over 3k in oil a year!!!!
The unit did not reach 180 when the house was 60s
How would more baseboard help? By next winter I will have our second floor hot water baseboard installed! We have electric baseboard upstairs now!
a1harnish
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: WL110
Stove/Furnace Make: looking for leisure line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110 STOKER

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