Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: blrman07 On: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:15 pm

Yepper you did an amazing job resurrecting that old Yellow Flame. I wondered why they called it that until I fired mine off. Then the reason became obvious.

You can put some 1/2 flat on the doors but it doesn't really need it.

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland, Pa.
blrman07
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: installing a VC 2310 this summer
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:48 pm

Wild ! Absolutely Wild ! You've made my Night ! You worked your Keister Off to Resurrect that Pup ! Enjoy !! :dancing:
Hambden Bob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni !

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: StokerDon On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:37 am

Well,,, I got up at 0445 and the fire was out. I guess today will be devoted to figuring out the timer hookup. Up to a foot of snow expected here today! Windchills tonight minus 20!

-Don
StokerDon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Yellow Flame "Competion Series" 3 grate boiler
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker1? can't figure out these dern Alaska names!!! It's a big old black one.
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood

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Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:45 am

Timer switches the Burner circuit... But it is best to switch one of the wire also through a high high limit...normally closed switch that opens when too hot...you don,t need more heat.
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:52 am

You can simply hook the switched power from the timer to the ZR terminal in the aquastat. By doing it that way it will run the stoker as long as the boiler is below the high limit setting of the aquastat.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: blrman07 On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:41 am

I never let my Yellow Flame idle longer than 15 minutes. With the big firebox and the grates just sitting in the middle you will pull virtually zero air through the grates with natural convection and the fire goes out. Treat it like a stoker stove. No combustion fan running, your fire goes out.

Your going to have to cycle every 15 minutes or so or get the Keystoker conversion fan kit. It's a kit that has you cut a small hole in the combustion fan housing and mount a small blower. It runs continously providing some combustion air so the fire doesn't go out at idle. See this link Keystoker k6 combustion blower

I opted to not cut into my combustion blower housing and just stuck pins in my Intermatic c8865 60 minute cycle timer so it cycled the boiler on every 15 minutes. Much easier than cutting holes in perfectly good fan housings.

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland Pa.
blrman07
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: installing a VC 2310 this summer
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: StokerDon On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:59 pm

OK, So, I hooked up the timer. It switches hot to the stoker motor, timer seems to work fine. I don't know if this is normal or not, I don't think it is, when I timed it I got about 12 min off and about 2 min on? Thats a 14 min cycle, that is about what I want! I must have lucked out here, this Honeywell S400 A is twice as fast as it should be! Here are some photos just to be sure I'm not crazy. This is a Honeywell S400 A right?

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I have the garage thermostat turned down right now to see how it idels. It seems this timer will work well.

I'm glad it's nasty outside today. The only place I'm go'in is out in the warm garage to tinker with the boiler, the tractor and the snow blower!

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Snow'in like crazy and windy as heck!

-Don
StokerDon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Yellow Flame "Competion Series" 3 grate boiler
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker1? can't figure out these dern Alaska names!!! It's a big old black one.
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: StokerDon On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:09 pm

blrman07 wrote:Your going to have to cycle every 15 minutes or so or get the Keystoker conversion fan kit. It's a kit that has you cut a small hole in the combustion fan housing and mount a small blower. It runs continously providing some combustion air so the fire doesn't go out at idle. See this link Keystoker k6 combustion blower

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland Pa.

Rev. Larry,

When I was shopping for stoker boilers I noticed that extra combustion blower on the later Keystokers. I think that's a very good idea. I would like to try it with this one but, I don't know if I want to cut holes in the cast blower housing yet!

For some reason my timer seems to be cycling at 14 mins?

-Don
StokerDon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Yellow Flame "Competion Series" 3 grate boiler
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker1? can't figure out these dern Alaska names!!! It's a big old black one.
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: StokerDon On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:50 pm

I keep my eye on craigslist and three weeks ago I saw this;


Losch coal burner furnace (Mechanicsburg)

Old classic Losch coal furnace for hot water systems. Torn down but still works. Great for cabin, garage, wherever, etc. Heated a 2400 square foot home for years. Or strip for parts... Fan, motor, 2 pumps...
Free of charge. Just come and pick it up. It is very heavy.


So, I've emailed this guy about 50 times in the passed three weeks, no response, I guess it's gone! Hard to believe,,, FREE!

Ho well, like I need another project.

-Don
StokerDon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Yellow Flame "Competion Series" 3 grate boiler
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker1? can't figure out these dern Alaska names!!! It's a big old black one.
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: tsb On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:55 pm

I never realized that Rube Goldberg designed timers.
Crude but effective !
tsb
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Binford 2000
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Pioneer top vent
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Saey Hanover II

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: StokerDon On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:12 pm

I hope ol' Rube got an award for this one!

-Don
StokerDon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Yellow Flame "Competion Series" 3 grate boiler
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker1? can't figure out these dern Alaska names!!! It's a big old black one.
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: Dragonslayer On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:29 pm

Hello Don,
Great job on the refurb and start-up!
The last time I checked in I think it was page 10!
I need to go back and get caught up!
Another Yellow Flame online and stoking. :)
Trust me, your gonna love it!
Dragonslayer.
Dragonslayer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Yellow Flame w/model A stoker

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:37 pm

Yes that's the same timer I have, it's supposed to run the stoker every 1/2 hour with the removable plate as shown, once an hour with the plate flipped over.
I don't know if Honeywell made a 1/4 and 1/2 hour timer, I don't think so. Maybe the synchronous motor was changed at some point.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: StokerDon On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:46 pm

Woodncoal,

Yah, it looks just like the one in the istructions you sent me. The instructions say it's a 30 min or 1 hour cycle. Go figure?

-Don
StokerDon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Yellow Flame "Competion Series" 3 grate boiler
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker1? can't figure out these dern Alaska names!!! It's a big old black one.
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood

Re: Yellow Flame, A Christmas Stoker Boiler

PostBy: StokerDon On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:55 pm

I just went out and checked on it. maintaining 180 degrees, about 18 PSI and the blowers are blow'in, I don't think the blowers are up to the task. It's zero degrees and windy as heck. I'm very confident that the fire will still be going when I get up tomorrow.

-Don
StokerDon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Yellow Flame "Competion Series" 3 grate boiler
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker1? can't figure out these dern Alaska names!!! It's a big old black one.
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood

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