What do I have here?

Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: Lightning On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:51 pm

Wow, keep us updated on how its burning!!
You plan to burn it up right?? :yes:
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
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Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:44 pm

I don't know if I'm doing it right but I have almost half a 5 gallon pail in there now and it's still making heat. I guess that ain't wrong! :)

It's still mostly coal in there. I'll shake it down shortly and throw more coke on top and see how it goes.
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Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:51 pm

I' a little late but, that without a doubt is coke.
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Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:55 pm

Never mind.
I'm On Fire
 
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Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:02 am

1am and she's cooking pretty well. Just threw the last couple scoops of the 5 gallon pail in. Should be pretty much all coke in there at this point.

I had the air open to 1.5 turns from my normal 1-1.25 with coal so a direct comparison is difficult but it is warmer in the house now without running the blower fan than when I'm running coal with the fan so that's something.

Turned it down to 1 turn and headed to bed. I'll see if it's still going in the morning.
jpete
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mk II
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Nut, Pea
Other Heating: Dino juice

Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: Lightning On: Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:23 am

Why would someone purchase coke?
Is it expensive? Where would you get it??
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut Size / White Ash

Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:04 am

Lightning wrote:Why would someone purchase coke?
Is it expensive? Where would you get it??


Up in these parts they sell it on every street corner toothy
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Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:58 am

dcrane wrote:
Lightning wrote:Why would someone purchase coke?
Is it expensive? Where would you get it??


Up in these parts they sell it on every street corner toothy




Good one . :lol:
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Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:29 am

Lightning wrote:Why would someone purchase coke?
Is it expensive? Where would you get it??


I know coal and coke used to be sold from the same dealers around here anyway. I've seen old newspaper ads and such.

I found this little bit on Wikipedia.

Some cokemaking processes produce valuable byproducts, including coal tar, ammonia, light oils, and coal gas.


So maybe if you were coking coal to produce those other things then coke is basically a waste product that can be sold cheaper but it still has value because the coke can be used to make heat for other uses.

That's just a guess on my part. Maybe someone else has a better explanation.

I have to say that it seems to be slightly hotter than coal in my extremely limited experience. Normally, the house drops to ~64* over night when the outside temp is in the 20's but I got up this morning and it was ~68* with the air intake set the same as where I normally have it.

I just gave it another 1/4 turn open to see if the fire recovers at all. It seemed pretty low but still making good heat. I didn't shake it yet but will in about an hour. I'm interested to see if there is more or less ash.

From playing around with it the other day, it seems like the individual pieces don't break down like coal does. A couple pieces fell out of the firebox when I was poking through the pile to break up some ash and after sitting on the concrete a few minutes, they went from orange to black and looked exactly like it did when I put it in.
jpete
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mk II
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Nut, Pea
Other Heating: Dino juice

Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:43 am

Found a place to buy "semi coke". It comes from China for $200/metric ton. Only catch is, you have to buy a minimum of 20 metric ton! :D

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/72277 ... _Coal.html
jpete
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mk II
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Nut, Pea
Other Heating: Dino juice

Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:48 am

Once apon a time...
Coke is/was used hugely in Basic Steel Making...Blast Furnaces.
Steelmakers produced their own coke from coal and used many of the byproducts to turn around and fuel the continuous coking process. Some other coke mfg byproducts came under attack in the 70's w/ both the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts that came about.
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Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:10 am

Just went and shook the fire down. I had red bits falling almost immediately so that's a little better then normal and I had blue ladies dancing which is impressive after only an hour and a 1/4 turn on the air intake.

I don't believe coal would have done that.(in this stove. YMMV)
jpete
 
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Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:54 pm

Dad got about 1.5 ton of coke one time from somone's basement. I think it was used in areas where smoke was a problem. Also way back in the day when towns had there own gas plants they would produce coke as a "waste" product.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: combustioneer model 77B
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Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:04 am

jpete wrote:Just went and shook the fire down. I had red bits falling almost immediately so that's a little better then normal and I had blue ladies dancing which is impressive after only an hour and a 1/4 turn on the air intake.

I don't believe coal would have done that.(in this stove. YMMV)

Hows the coke burning?
Can you get some pics? 8-)
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
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Re: What do I have here?

PostBy: Berlin On: Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:57 am

Coke will typically have a low ash/sulfur content and be hard to ignite; it will likely have a lower volatile content than anthracite. Most coke bought for residential purposes was still an expertly blended product; it was designed with certain properties in mind and one of them was strength. Coke is still available in certain places and Buffalo, NY (tonawanda coke) is one of them.
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