Back Pipe on a Glenwood No.118

 
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Post by blackrock » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 10:54 am

I'm wondering if it's worthwhile to use the back pipe on these stoves. From what I have researched and been told it was an option back in the day. I have seen some with and with out. Both of the ones I'm going to use have them. The 118's are pretty good size and will no doubt blow me right out of the house if I turn them up but if the pipe really does make them run more efficiently then I'll include them in the resto.

Thanks, Vance

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Post by DePippo79 » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 11:14 am

The indirect back pipes add radiant heating surface. Not as good as a baseheater, but still more heat surface. I have the indirect on mine and like it. If your stoves have them and you have the pieces why not use them? Keep that heat from going out the chimney. Good luck with your restorations. Matt

 
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Post by DePippo79 » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 11:19 am

Here's a picture. Can get more detailed pictures if you want. Will be cleaning out stove/pipe, probably Tuesday. Matt

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Post by PJT » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 11:24 am

Vance if you decide you don't want the back pipe and want to sell it can I have first dibs?

 
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Post by wsherrick » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 12:58 pm

Yes, you want the back pipe. No question about it.

 
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Post by blackrock » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 1:16 pm

It's settled...Back pipe it is. Thanks guys.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 2:10 pm

PJT wrote:Vance if you decide you don't want the back pipe and want to sell it can I have first dibs?
Vance, welcome.

Maybe you'd consider loaning the back pipe cast parts to a foundry to have them reproduced for those of us who are missing the back pipe castings. Such as the back pipe's oval lid, the diverter damper and it's housing inside the oval pipe under the lid, and the back pipe flange to the chimney pipe ?

The 118 uses 6 inch pipe, unlike the smaller 116, 114 that use 5 inch pipe, so those parts can only be copied from an original 118.

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Post by wsherrick » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 2:15 pm

We have a thread here, buried deep in the hand fired section about how someone easily made a very functional back pipe out of a piece of steel and a standard 6 inch damper as the indirect valve.
I have said several times that it would be a blessing for the entire coal burning community if someone would make these. There is a great demand for them and it is very simple for someone with the ability and tools to make them.
For the life of me I don't know why any of the stove restorers don't have these in stock.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 2:17 pm

DePippo79 wrote:Here's a picture. Can get more detailed pictures if you want. Will be cleaning out stove/pipe, probably Tuesday. Matt
DP,
Is that a Glenwood 118 ?

My Glenwood Modern Oak 118 (1907), has a different base casting for the back pipe. It's identical to Vance's first picture. The casting bolts to the back of the ash drawer area.
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Post by blackrock » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 3:23 pm

I would do that if someone needed the parts. Is there a demand for the triangle bars type grates or does Tomahawk or the stove shops have them right in stock? What would a set of bars (All four) cost roughly for a 116?

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 4:44 pm

blackrock wrote:I would do that if someone needed the parts. Is there a demand for the triangle bars type grates or does Tomahawk or the stove shops have them right in stock? What would a set of bars (All four) cost roughly for a 116?
Yes, a few of us on here have Glenwood 118 missing the back pipe parts. I have the cast base bolted to the ash drawer shown in your first picture, but nothing else for the back pipe. I can make up the tin work, but it would be nice to also have the castings to make it like original as part of the restoration.

I just bought a set of new grates for my 118 about two weeks ago from Bryant Stove in your neck of the woods -Thorndike Maine.
http://www.bryantstove.com/

Covered the new grate bars in this thread. About $250.00 with shipping for all four bars.
Grate News Today ! news grate new

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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 4:48 pm

blackrock wrote:I would do that if someone needed the parts. Is there a demand for the triangle bars type grates or does Tomahawk or the stove shops have them right in stock? What would a set of bars (All four) cost roughly for a 116?
116, or a 118? They are a different size.

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Post by blackrock » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 5:14 pm

Let me know what parts and how many we need and we'll get together and figure out a plan. I was just wondering about the grates. Curious about how much they were. Was at Bryant's Saturday putting around. Nice people.

Vance

 
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Post by dcrane » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 8:06 pm

all I know is every damb stove graveyard and barn collection I go out to see these damb rear dbl heater pipes are removed and gone from them along with the finials :mad: (theivin' bastards out their somewhere) :lol:

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 29, 2013 8:10 pm

blackrock wrote:Let me know what parts and how many we need and we'll get together and figure out a plan. I was just wondering about the grates. Curious about how much they were. Was at Bryant's Saturday putting around. Nice people.

Vance
Put me on that list of Glenwood 118 back pipe castings.

PJT may be interested also ?

I've spoken with Bryant Stove, who restores Glenwood Modern Oaks also. They don't have back pipe parts available. They may want in on the project too ????

Paul


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