Propane Ripoff

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat May 24, 2008 7:34 am

cArNaGe wrote:I live on the PA/NY border.
But cans in PA... No deposit.

Take cans to NY 5 cent return.

I have a plan to get rich.



They're all Yuengling.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat May 24, 2008 7:36 am

cArNaGe wrote:I have a plan to get rich.


Tah twas on a seinfeld episode. :lol: There's somewhere that its 10cents.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
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Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Sat May 24, 2008 8:40 am

cArNaGe wrote:I live on the PA/NY border.
But cans in PA... No deposit.

Take cans to NY 5 cent return.

I have a plan to get rich.

Take them to Michigan, and get 10 cents. Get rich twice as fast :lol: :) Scott
Scottscoaled
 
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Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat May 24, 2008 10:52 am

stokerscot wrote:
cArNaGe wrote:I live on the PA/NY border.
But cans in PA... No deposit.

Take cans to NY 5 cent return.

I have a plan to get rich.

Take them to Michigan, and get 10 cents. Get rich twice as fast :lol: :) Scott



Note to Greg:

Shall I save the empties for you?
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:21 pm

I'm still waiting for the check for the unused propane that was in the tank.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: LsFarm On: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:23 pm

Three or four years ago, when I first installed a wood/coal outdoor boiler, I had a unused surplus from my pre-season prepurchase of propane.. the profane company would not evaluate the surplus untill the end of the season, even though when they filled my tanks [against my wishes] in March they took only a few gallons each..
So I had to wait till they 'evaluated' my surplus/unused prepaid gas... THEN I had to wait till AUGUST for the refund check.. They had my money a full year, August to August. And we aren't talking peanuts either,, the prepurchase was $5600, and the refund was $2600..


What a rip off .

Greg L.
LsFarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
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Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:51 am

FYI update on propane cost per gallon in our area for the curious....

We just topped off for $2.05 / gallon. We own our own 1000 gallon tank so we can shop for price. Prices per gallon during my phone call survey ran from $2.05 - $2.97 at different dealers. We use propane for the dryer, HW, cooktop and backup furnace; we use about 400 gallon per year for those uses.

Using the home heating fuel cost calculators in another thread, that translates to $24.95 for propane vs. $11.24 for coal at $210/ton. Although we have cooked on our Mark III a few times, the propane cooktop & electric oven are still the preferred cooking appliances in the house! :)
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
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Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Dallas On: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:09 am

I just took a look at this thread >>>>

I had Suburban, but changed to a local propane dealer. The new dealer brought their tank and hooked it up. I had 50/100 (whatever they measure on the tank ..%?). I called Suburban to pick up the tank and asked about credit. They said they would pick it up and then refill it to determine it's contents to calculate credit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was three years ago :!: Just last week, I disconnected the new tank and hooked the Suburban tank back up to burn off the propane. I doubt that Suburban will ever pick up the tank.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Modified Russo C-35
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Stove/Furnace Model: Modified C-35

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Burnedup On: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:46 am

For all the guys with tanks not picked up maybe you should invoice them a storage fee. it's thier equipment stored on your property!
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harmon
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Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:27 am

:shock: I just signed for a fill up at the plant, we use propane for the pilot on the boiler. $5.51 @ gallon! :mad:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
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Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: DavidL On: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:38 am

Burnedup wrote:For all the guys with tanks not picked up maybe you should invoice them a storage fee. it's thier equipment stored on your property!


I had the same problem with Suburban picking up a tank. I sent them invoices for storage, but no response. I finally took the tank and put it on the side of the road and called Suburban and told them they had a liabilty sitting on the side of the road; they picked it up the next day.

I would never deal with Suburban again; poor service and overpriced propane.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Energy King
Stove/Furnace Model: 480EK

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: bear creek burnout On: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:15 pm

I only have propane for my back up 15K auto generator (which I haven't needed more than 4 hours since I had it installed). I did get my pre-buy price for my Peerless oil hog for '08/'09. A real deal @ $3.999 gal. Let's see....at 1,500 gal/year that's a whopping $6,000. I'm hoping that the Hitzer insert I'm installing in a few weeks will cut the quantity in half.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503 Insert

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: greg_gran On: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:45 pm

I just got the same shock when my local propane company stopped by to top off my 100lbs tank. I had used less that half a tank, and it had been 1 year since the last top off. They nailed me for $5.50/gal. They don't have a "will-call" option anymore - everyone is on automatic delivery (they never bothered to tell me that).
I expect my chances of getting a refund for the propane already in the tank are next to nil. So, I paid the bill and am going to use up all of the propane over the winter. Then, come spring I'm going to disconnect the tank, throw it in my truck and dump it on their doorstep. I absolutely refuse to be ripped off for a "disconnection fee". I also put a tag on the tank that says "DO NOT REFILL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES"
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Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:17 pm

I just got the same shock when my local propane company stopped by to top off my 100lbs tank. I had used less that half a tank, and it had been 1 year since the last top off. They nailed me for $5.50/gal. They don't have a "will-call" option anymore - everyone is on automatic delivery (they never bothered to tell me that).
I expect my chances of getting a refund for the propane already in the tank are next to nil. So, I paid the bill and am going to use up all of the propane over the winter. Then, come spring I'm going to disconnect the tank, throw it in my truck and dump it on their doorstep. I absolutely refuse to be ripped off for a "disconnection fee". I also put a tag on the tank that says "DO NOT REFILL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES"




Ouch !!!!
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
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Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:06 pm

They nailed me for $5.50/gal.


Propane sucks. I never did get that refund for the gas in the tank. Guess it's time for a strongly worded letter.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert