Propane Ripoff

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: poconoman On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:35 pm

I can't stand propane and Suburban is the MAIN reason. :mad: It's also expensive. That's why I'm looking deeply in these forums because I want push away from propane. I'll keep the tank, in case of an emergency, but I want the independence with a coal furnace. I can shop around for the coal. FREEDOM.

I have plenty of room in the basement and the duct work is right there. The house is around 2400sqft with 2 floors and master bedroom loft.
poconoman
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire II

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:54 pm

poconoman wrote:I'll keep the tank, in case of an emergency

Not if you hang around here very long. :lol:

Welcome aboard!
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: wlape3 On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:33 pm

When I moved into my new home I was shocked at the cost of heating with propane compared to the cost of coal so I had a coal furnace installed in parallel with my existing propane furnace. The propane furnace is controlled by a separate thermostat and will come on if the house temperature drops too much. Most of the time the coal furnace provides the all the heat with the propane being used when I am away from home more than a few days. Let me know if you would like to see some pictures of my set up. Most of the important stuff is in the wiring.
wlape3
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: 140 auger, forced hot air


Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: 009to090 On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:46 pm

wlape3 wrote:Let me know if you would like to see some pictures of my set up. Most of the important stuff is in the wiring.

Of Course! :D Pictures are great, just start a new thread. :up:
009to090
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 HighBoy
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: DVC-500 x 2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: poconoman On: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:44 am

wlape3 wrote:When I moved into my new home I was shocked at the cost of heating with propane compared to the cost of coal so I had a coal furnace installed in parallel with my existing propane furnace. The propane furnace is controlled by a separate thermostat and will come on if the house temperature drops too much. Most of the time the coal furnace provides the all the heat with the propane being used when I am away from home more than a few days. Let me know if you would like to see some pictures of my set up. Most of the important stuff is in the wiring.



SURE!! I'm actually looking into the Alaska 140!
poconoman
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire II

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: wlape3 On: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:33 am

OK. I'll take some pictures and post in a separate thread. I'' PM you when it's available. Probably tonight or tomorrow night depending on my honey-do list.
wlape3
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: 140 auger, forced hot air

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Stephen in Soky On: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:17 pm

I've tolerated Suburban for the last 4 years (Since I bought this place) but no more. I called monday to price a delivery only to find out their price was $3.79/gallon COD. Called another supplier that everyone nearby is happy with, they've been in business many years, yada yada to find their price was $1.79/gallon COD. Gave them my information over the phone, they said they'd be out in less than 10 days to set a new tank. They called yesterday (Thursday) and were here at 9:00 this morning, set the tank, put the propane in, I gave them a check and saved several hundred dollars. As long as Suburban was only gouging me a few cents on the gallon I paid to avoid the inconvenience of switching, $2/gallon was more gouging than I could stand. How do some folks sleep at night?
Stephen in Soky
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Warm Morning
Stove/Furnace Model: 500

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: poconoman On: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:29 am

I hate Suburban with a passion! :mad: If I'm able to buy out their 500gl tank and have the freedom to choose a supplier, I'll be a much happier camper. But, my first goal is to do a ton of research and get me a whole house coal furnace. Once that's done, I can go to phase two and get rid of Suburban!
poconoman
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire II

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:32 am

30.06 gets rid of those tanks jiffy quick :D
Poconoeagle
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:46 am

Well I ran out of propane this morning! :mad: O well I haven't even thought about it since the spring. Time to load my 100 lb tank in the truck and go spend $60.
cArNaGe
 

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: North Candlewood On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:26 am

Thanks for the reminder I need to do the same with the 100# tank today. Just a stove and dryer for the use. A BBQ tank lasts us about 3 weeks.
North Candlewood
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Eshland S-130
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 120
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1602
Baseburners & Antiques: Princess Atlantic Cookstove
Coal Size/Type: Nut Rice

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: wlape3 On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:41 am

My friend tells me Suburban sucks here too. Dealt with them in PA and was not entirely satisfied but propane was a lot cheaper then. I deal with a local distributor who is more reasonable.

My propane use is only 200 gallons a year to run my stove, clothes dryer, hot water tank, and occaisionally the furnace. This year I installed my own 100 gal tank. With a usage of only 200 gallons a year they were charging me $3.19 a gal. With my own tank it dropped to $1.99 a gal and it will pay for itself in 4 years. After that it's all gravey. :verycool:
wlape3
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: 140 auger, forced hot air

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:55 pm

Got a letter from "Abandoned Property Services, LLC", in the letter is an indication about a check issued to me from Suburban Propain in 2008 for $200+ dollars-that was never cashed. I guess that's my refund for the gas that was in the tank. They wanted the form returned, I have to indicate if I want a replacement check issued. DUH. :P Also they wanted to know if I have the "stale check" in my possession.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:43 pm

What a coincidence...I was reading this thread this morning after getting a bill from Suburban for 4.95 per gallon, plus fees! They are done!! I just called a local gas company and was quoted $3.65 per gallon for my small usage, and no tank rental fee. Sounds good to me.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Propane Ripoff

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:04 pm

Holy cow!!! Finally got the check from "Suburban Heating Oil Partners, LLC" for $208.09!! I'm rich!!
Took them long enough.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert


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