cleaning glass/stove

Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: av8r On: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:54 am

Has anyone tried wet sanding with ultra grit paper or cerium oxide powder to bring the glass back to new condition? It's ceramic and as such you should be able to grind/polish it back to perfect.
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: gambler On: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:19 pm

av8r wrote:Has anyone tried wet sanding with ultra grit paper or cerium oxide powder to bring the glass back to new condition? It's ceramic and as such you should be able to grind/polish it back to perfect.


I work in an R & D polishing lab and I was going to try to polish my door glass at the end of the season.
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: av8r On: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:54 pm

gambler wrote:
av8r wrote:Has anyone tried wet sanding with ultra grit paper or cerium oxide powder to bring the glass back to new condition? It's ceramic and as such you should be able to grind/polish it back to perfect.


I work in an R & D polishing lab and I was going to try to polish my door glass at the end of the season.


Well...you may have a new off-season job if it works out. I'll be curious to see how you make out. I may do the same thing experimenting with the current glass once we shut down for the spring.
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: xrayray On: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:25 am

I am just now looking into a coal stoker however I presently have owned two different brands of wood burning stoves. To clean the glass I found using the 3M green scrubbing pads with a little window cleaner to work fine. It never scratched the glass. Now this is with wood so with coal it may not work as well but the 3M pad does not scratch glass but is tough.
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: europachris On: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:08 pm

My glass has been easy to keep clean through 40 bags of Blaschak with just a damp newspaper daily.

However, I'm onto a new batch of Blaschak, bagged this year rather than at least a year ago, and while it seems to burn a bit hotter and doesn't turn the glass as milky-cloudy with deposits, the more translucent deposit that does collect seems to be etching the glass at an alarming rate, and I've only been through about 4 bags of the new stuff. :shock:

Maybe the two events are not related, but it sure seems to be a connection to me. I'm going to try a few things before it gets too bad (Brillo pad possibly, or a paste of Barkeeper's Friend) and see if it's just a difficult to remove deposit film.
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: av8r On: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:29 pm

europachris wrote:My glass has been easy to keep clean through 40 bags of Blaschak with just a damp newspaper daily.

However, I'm onto a new batch of Blaschak, bagged this year rather than at least a year ago, and while it seems to burn a bit hotter and doesn't turn the glass as milky-cloudy with deposits, the more translucent deposit that does collect seems to be etching the glass at an alarming rate, and I've only been through about 4 bags of the new stuff. :shock:

Maybe the two events are not related, but it sure seems to be a connection to me. I'm going to try a few things before it gets too bad (Brillo pad possibly, or a paste of Barkeeper's Friend) and see if it's just a difficult to remove deposit film.


keep us posted...
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: ken On: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:45 pm

my side panels shattered. i am replacing them with 3/16 flat stock. i washed and primed them with red primer. the red primer matches my stove. it's just regular primer. i bought 1,200 degree paint. should i use the paint or can i just use the primer. if i put the paint over the regular primer , it's not high temp primer. thank you , ken
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: coalstoves On: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:03 pm

ken wrote:my side panels shattered. i am replacing them with 3/16 flat stock. i washed and primed them with red primer. the red primer matches my stove. it's just regular primer. i bought 1,200 degree paint. should i use the paint or can i just use the primer. if i put the paint over the regular primer , it's not high temp primer. thank you , ken


Primer may fail, Given the fact you got high temp paint and are aware of stove temps. I find it strange you didn't use a high temp primer :?:
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: ken On: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:06 pm

couldn't find any :(
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: coalstoves On: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:10 pm

ken wrote:couldn't find any :(

Next time take a look at Auto Parts Stores, expecially header or exhaust manifold paint
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: Matthaus On: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:24 am

Hey Ken, as coalstoves said it is in the Auto parts store, (Advance has it), Duplicolor 1200* ceramic primer, works great, I have been using it for a while.
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: ken On: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:48 pm

next time. i'm trapped here , so i have to ask somebody pick it up. well i tell them what i need and you get what they bring :D it seams to have worked ok so far. :) he got the Dupli-Color High Heat 1,200. some guys don't like to ask for directions :shock:
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: europachris On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:49 pm

av8r wrote:
europachris wrote:My glass has been easy to keep clean through 40 bags of Blaschak with just a damp newspaper daily.

However, I'm onto a new batch of Blaschak, bagged this year rather than at least a year ago, and while it seems to burn a bit hotter and doesn't turn the glass as milky-cloudy with deposits, the more translucent deposit that does collect seems to be etching the glass at an alarming rate, and I've only been through about 4 bags of the new stuff. :shock:

Maybe the two events are not related, but it sure seems to be a connection to me. I'm going to try a few things before it gets too bad (Brillo pad possibly, or a paste of Barkeeper's Friend) and see if it's just a difficult to remove deposit film.


keep us posted...


Here's a late season report - my daily newspaper cleanings have failed to keep the glass sparkling clean. The stove went out this morning due to my sleeping in (late night last night) so the hopper ran empty and she went out. I took the opportunity to hit the glass with some Barkeeper's Friend cleanser. It cleaned it, but there is definitely some hazing/etching going on. It's not severe, but definitely noticeable.

The more aggressive deposits definitely seem to be coincident with the new batch of Blaschak, which seems to burn a little cooler and smells different (not as pungent). I don't know if that is truly the cause or just due to getting some time on the new glass. I have about 9 bags to go and I'll let it go out for the season (unless it stays really cold). That will be 76 bags run through the stove, plus a hundred pounds of buck from GregL.

I figure maybe another two years before the glass is really nasty at the current deterioration rate. If I was running the stove hard (3 or 4 tons/year) I could see the glass being shot after a year.
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: Ed.A On: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:14 pm

europachris wrote:Here's a late season report - my daily newspaper cleanings have failed to keep the glass sparkling clean. The stove went out this morning due to my sleeping in (late night last night) so the hopper ran empty and she went out. I took the opportunity to hit the glass with some Barkeeper's Friend cleanser. It cleaned it, but there is definitely some hazing/etching going on. It's not severe, but definitely noticeable.

The more aggressive deposits definitely seem to be coincident with the new batch of Blaschak, which seems to burn a little cooler and smells different (not as pungent). I don't know if that is truly the cause or just due to getting some time on the new glass. I have about 9 bags to go and I'll let it go out for the season (unless it stays really cold). That will be 76 bags run through the stove, plus a hundred pounds of buck from GregL.

I figure maybe another two years before the glass is really nasty at the current deterioration rate. If I was running the stove hard (3 or 4 tons/year) I could see the glass being shot after a year.


I gave up on the daily regimen, like yours, etching has taken place as well. I'll be curious to see how Gambler makes out at the end of the season with his experince in Glass Polishing.
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Re: cleaning glass/stove

PostBy: av8r On: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:48 am

Ed.A wrote:
europachris wrote:Here's a late season report - my daily newspaper cleanings have failed to keep the glass sparkling clean. The stove went out this morning due to my sleeping in (late night last night) so the hopper ran empty and she went out. I took the opportunity to hit the glass with some Barkeeper's Friend cleanser. It cleaned it, but there is definitely some hazing/etching going on. It's not severe, but definitely noticeable.

The more aggressive deposits definitely seem to be coincident with the new batch of Blaschak, which seems to burn a little cooler and smells different (not as pungent). I don't know if that is truly the cause or just due to getting some time on the new glass. I have about 9 bags to go and I'll let it go out for the season (unless it stays really cold). That will be 76 bags run through the stove, plus a hundred pounds of buck from GregL.

I figure maybe another two years before the glass is really nasty at the current deterioration rate. If I was running the stove hard (3 or 4 tons/year) I could see the glass being shot after a year.


I gave up on the daily regimen, like yours, etching has taken place as well. I'll be curious to see how Gambler makes out at the end of the season with his experince in Glass Polishing.


Me too...gave up on the daily...glass was etched and that's all she wrote. Happened quickly...went from nothing to bad in a week. Still have that nice orange glow though...ahhhhh....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..coal....
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