Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:53 pm

Have any of our fellow Ohioans ever burned bit coal from Central Fuel Co. in your stoves, and if so, how did it perform?
lsayre
 
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: Berlin On: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:01 pm

I've burned their #6 in lump and stoker form. It burned well, less pyritic sulfur and iron than many other coals. However, they pull from a number of different mines and coal beds and somewhat more variability with them than with other suppliers such as thompson bros.

I believe forum member hardwood has been burning their stoker coal in his combustioneer mark IV furnace for years.
Berlin
 
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:03 pm

Berlin wrote:I've burned their #6 in lump and stoker form. It burned well, less pyritic sulfur and iron than many other coals. However, they pull from a number of different mines and coal beds and somewhat more variability with them than with other suppliers such as thompson bros.


Thanks Berlin! I'm amazed at how many bit coals you have burned form so many different sources. How would you rate the volatility of this coal?
lsayre
 
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: Berlin On: Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:09 pm

I think every coal they process is high vol. (30+). Almost all bit coal in ohio is, although different high vol coals do burn differently; some will gas more quickly, and produce more soot even w/ the same % of volatiles.

If you're looking to burn it in a hand-fired stove, the things to be most concerned with is size, coke button, and ash %.

Their #6 was around 10% ash, high vol, but speed of volatile release was about average - not spectacular in either direction. It did NOT coke badly (bear in mind this is a few years ago and the properties of their #6 are likely to have changed somewhat), and was available in large lumps. All told it burned pretty nicely.

Hand-firing any bit coal (esp. any high vol) will produce some smoke from the stack; the proper size coal, the proper appliance, and the proper firing technique will reduce it, but don't expect it to disappear.

Looking to switch to the good stuff ?? :D
Berlin
 
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:22 pm

Berlin wrote:Looking to switch to the good stuff ?? :D


I'm still planning for the need of a hand fired stove in the event of an extended outage of electricity. Since my boiler burns pea, and most hand fired anthracite stoves burn best with nut or even stove, I would have to stock two different coals even if I stuck with anthracite. I started thinking of the savings potential for local bit vs. distant anthracite, and if I have to stock two different coals to begin with, perhaps bit is to be considered for the hand fired stove. My greatest consideration is proximity to the neighbors.
lsayre
 
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: HardWood1789 On: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:40 am

Central Fuel is my primary coal source. They are a wash plant for locally mined coal for the Kimble Co. so the coal grade varies. Drive in and load "stocker" coal will be a huge disappointment, it is not "sized" and a lot of dust.

I have talked the plant manager (Andy) into making pea coal for me. He put a screen at the end of a chute that allows pea through. This has worked out great for me ... until I ran out of coal. Since they are not set up for us little guys (only because there is little customer demand for sized coal) I could not get in to where the coal was and had to buy 2 ton of hard coal from Coalway.

I would love to see folks ask for sized pea, I have Andy very close to stocking pea for residential. The demand for lump coal out there went through the roof this year after every other source within 30 miles stopped selling to the public. I am hoping for the same for pea.

If you are lucky you just may be there on the day they process coal from the Pittsburgh Seam, very hard soft coal. When the local mines are not working (due to weather conditions), Central Fuel hauls coal from southern Ohio. That is a good day.
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: Berlin On: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:31 pm

Mark, I would buy some from them to help out, but, it would need to be processed from the same seam and be consistent. Nothing is worse with a stoker than getting different coals every time you pick some up. They would need to pick a coal mine that they expect to be in business for a while and a coal that's low ash, low coke button and screen only that coal for their pea stoker stockpile.
Berlin
 
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:36 pm

Berlin,You are The A#1 Bituminizer! Keep it coming! As far as the rest of You Animals are concerned,Thanx for keepin' the Info Flowin' on the Ohio Section of Der Coal Board! :punk:
Hambden Bob
 
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: Willis On: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:48 pm

Going to try to run some pea stoker in next week or two. Been really busy with coal sales this winter. I'll let you guys know how it turns out if anyone is interested in good washed stoker. We are about 30 miles from Central Fuels. Here are the most recent specs from our stoker coal.
Ash 6.58
Sulfur 2.26
BTU 12,932
Moisture 5.12
MAF 14,684
Deep mined #6 and #7 coal mild coking, it is what I heat with.
Willis
 
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:50 pm

Now you're talkin',Willis ! :up:
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: Berlin On: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:50 am

Josh, I'd like to pick some up mid/end march to see if it works well for me, if it does, I'll be buying a lot more. I've got multiple family members, friends, and others running these combustioneers and other stokers which use bituminous pea stoker coal up here in NY. Thompson Bros. has good coal, but it's picky - it has to be bone dry or you'll have outfires and it has a high coke button, which is fine in a combustioneer, but not as acceptable in other stokers. - thus I'm looking for a lower coke button source. The specs on that coal look very good, Hopefully the mid coke button will be ok. Has to be better than Ohio North Lima/Brookville #4.
Berlin
 
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Re: Central Fuel Co, New Philadelphia, Ohio (Bituminous Coal)

PostBy: HardWood1789 On: Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:42 pm

Willis wrote:Going to try to run some pea stoker in next week or two.


When, where, and how much? You let me know and I'll be out.
HardWood1789
 
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