My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: dcrane On: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:58 pm

JimD wrote:Well to say this stove is great would be an understatement.

It is awesome. Been running since New Years. Overnight burns are a breeze.... I woke up this morning and it looked as good as when I went to bed.... Highly efficient. I did 12 hour burn today. Well just about. I loaded it at 5:30 am and just shook and loaded about 8- 10lbs into it .. House still 70deg.

Gonna be -20 or colder tonight....

As I was writing this I heard l what sounded like coal falling inside the stove and opened it up and the middle if the coal pile must have hollowed out when I shook it down. So had to add some more once I knocked it down from the edges... But it's back up in minutes :)

Anyone have that happen after they shake it down?


yes Jim... thats sometimes referred to as coal "bridging" (you can learn about bridging by using the search feature of the forum), it involves many factors... temp, coal quality, firebrick age, "fusing" (another term you can research) on firebrick, among many other things i wont bog this thread down with... i will say one thing to check for on the firebrick when stove is cool would be vertical/smooth side walls (if their is a lot of built up fusing somewhere on the middle of the brick this could be a repeating issue and you will want to carefully try to chip it off). In the model 88 in particular its not a bad idea to simply give a couple "jambs"with a poker into the coal bed prior to the shake, as well as after the load (many of us do this as common practice, we dont typically like to play around with the coal bed or stir it up and most will tell you that.... but a couple good stiff jabs down from top or up from bottom (depending on stove, etc.) is AOK ;) P.S. not that your going to have this trouble with the 88 but always be mindful of your cast iron grate when doing the quick pokie poke to make things settle nice (we dont want to see a broke grate ;) )
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: JimD On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:34 am

Well it got to -15 last night. I kept the stove full to the top. The coldest it got in the house was 66. But I went to bed real late keeping an eye on the stove, I thought I was going to lose the fire after I shook it down and almost had to restart.... But I got it back going , just took time. I will give the walls a scrape down, I do know there was some buildup on the refractory but I didn't think it would be an issue.... I should be getting the new bottom grate and handle today from the looks of it (Thanks Doug :) )
I will learn how much to shake it and not make a big hole in the center, I think the broken dump grate also had a lot to do with that.

I am sure that yesterday and early morning used up a lot of coal, but that's to be expected at sub zero temps and an old farmhouse !

It will be nice to see how the consumption is at normal winter temps of around 20 deg
This was a little drastic!! :shock:
JimD
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rare Crane Coal Cooker # 88. And pot bellied coal stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut coal

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: JimD On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:13 pm

It got down below 0 again last night and I went to bed around 11pm... My wife stayed up for a while and she stoked the stove around 1am and she grabbed a bag of coal but used the pea coal instead of the nut..... It did great. Woke up around 9 am and it was still 70 in the house. So I am going to try mostly pea today and see how it does.

I still have 10 bags of nut and 5 bags of pea.. Will maybe mix it together till I buy more.
JimD
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rare Crane Coal Cooker # 88. And pot bellied coal stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut coal

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:03 pm

JimD wrote:It got down below 0 again last night and I went to bed around 11pm... My wife stayed up for a while and she stoked the stove around 1am and she grabbed a bag of coal but used the pea coal instead of the nut..... It did great. Woke up around 9 am and it was still 70 in the house. So I am going to try mostly pea today and see how it does.

I still have 10 bags of nut and 5 bags of pea.. Will maybe mix it together till I buy more.


truth is....you have a pea coal grate in that baby, in the 88 i like the nut grate mainly because its a pretty heavy bed when loaded and the nut grate always seemed stronger to me anyways (maybe just keep an eye out for one, I have seen them out their from time to time).
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: JimD On: Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:20 am

Doug, I am buying a ton of coal Tuesday or We'd, what would you recommend as the best way to go in it seeing I have the pea grate... It worked great with the nut although I did get that bridging... The pea also did good but seems to get more ash when I shake down ...takes a couple ash pans to get red coals to drop down vs the nut maybe one pan.

I'm sure it was designed for the pea size, just asking what you had the best luck with.
JimD
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rare Crane Coal Cooker # 88. And pot bellied coal stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut coal

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:04 am

JimD wrote:Doug, I am buying a ton of coal Tuesday or We'd, what would you recommend as the best way to go in it seeing I have the pea grate... It worked great with the nut although I did get that bridging... The pea also did good but seems to get more ash when I shake down ...takes a couple ash pans to get red coals to drop down vs the nut maybe one pan.

I'm sure it was designed for the pea size, just asking what you had the best luck with.


If i had to pick id mix pea & nut LOL ... (I dont want to say something that could be wrong for you Jim... best for you to try both and make that determination yourself ;) ),

I agree totally about the ash pan being a pain in the ass for an 88 (double firepot area, expand stove high yet nothing was done to increase ash pan size or ash area to make up for it)... fred could prolly make a better ashpan (one way to increase ash pan size is to make an ashpan that needs to turn slightly to get in the door opening.... in other words a slight "V" or "U" in it to make the turn in), another help might be to get another ashpan (most of us have or use two anyways... so not a bad idea to have an extra).
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:29 am

Hi JimD, nice find and set up. Well I'll give you my $.02. With winter in full bloom I would go with 'nut and the reason is you can screen out the smaller pieces and break up the big stuff which is a PITA, if you had to but you can't make pea size bigger. If your dealer has a half ton of either size maybe he or she will build you a ton of 1/2 and 1/2
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: JimD On: Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:37 pm

$309 for a ton of nut... Picked it up today and just loaded it up under cover.

So far we are still humming along since New Years. , haven't had to re start yet.
Received my new Center grate, shaker handle and a wooden knob from DCrane( thanks Doug your the best)
Now it's easier to shake it down rather than vise grips ha ha .

Getting used to giving it a few pokes after a shakedown to drop the pile down into the void that shaking creates on this tall round firebox
JimD
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rare Crane Coal Cooker # 88. And pot bellied coal stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut coal

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:03 pm

Poke gently Luke a good hot fire and one leaning towards it's demise can look very similar...and remember Darth Crane is not your father... :funny: toothy

sorry couldn't help it I am going crazy being laid off and can't wait to get back to work!
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: JimD On: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:48 pm

I love it when I wak up in the house and it's 71. I'm at work and checking my temp from my phone and it's 72 deg. Only 8 deg outside. I think I have this thing dialed in just right. Learning how to shake down just enough.
JimD
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rare Crane Coal Cooker # 88. And pot bellied coal stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut coal

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 44

PostBy: KingCoal918 On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:59 pm

dcrane wrote: only about 500 were made (where as their were prolly like 40,000 44's made)... so that gives you some indication of its rarity ;)


oh. wow. yeah, rare.
KingCoal918
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane Coal Cooker Model 88
Coal Size/Type: stove and nut

Re: My Crane Coal Cooker 88 ( like a 44 but taller)

PostBy: JimD On: Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:59 pm

It's Patriots Playoff finals today! I will be next to my stove all day watching football!
I went out of town Fri night , stoked the stoke deep and it kept the house warm for over 24 hours... Last night when I got home it was out but that's ok , it needed its first good clean out after almost a month of straight running.
She is slowly getting coal into it now, wood fire is getting to coals and I have been adding a scoop full of pea coal every now and then.... Will have it full in a few hours and humming along!

Nice I have tomorrow off too so I can enjoy my nice warm house :)

Have a great Sunday everyone.

Go Patriots !!!
JimD
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rare Crane Coal Cooker # 88. And pot bellied coal stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut coal