EPA proposes new wood stove standards

Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: wsherrick On: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:58 pm

They are going to keep at until they take away every means of being self sufficient you have available. They are talking about regulating home gardens, the local sale of fruits and vegetables, controlling the water usage on your property and so on and so on.
The deal about stoves is just a part of the long term plans of these malevolent bureaucrats.
Again, they are not going to stop.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
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Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: coalkirk On: Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:08 pm

Just be glad you don't live in the peoples republic of maryland. Here they tax the rain!
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Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: DieselBob On: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:41 pm

skip wrote:EPA Proposes Updates to Air Standards for Newly Manufactured Woodstoves and Heaters

I foresee a market for old stoves coming.
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Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:13 am

This all comes back to they want government dependence. I know I am a conspiracy nut. :)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
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Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:22 am

Flyer5 wrote:This all comes back to they want government dependence. I know I am a conspiracy nut. :)


No I think you are spot on. That and they no better than you whats best for you. It's part of the dem mantra.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:08 am

Warning, liberals at play...

http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/uploadedFi ... lk-through)/Level_3_-_General/DRAFT%20WOOD%20SMOKE%20NUISANCE%20ORDINANCE.pdf

but these idiots are OK with everyone having their own 60' windmill in their tiny little gardens. That ordinance already passed. HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA. You can't make this stuff up.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 110K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93, Jotul 507
Baseburners & Antiques: Red Cross Invader 2
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:05 am

Berkley ... figures. Just saying the word "Conservative" in that town will get you jail time. :lol:

Yet another reason to never buy anything new.

I suggest getting yourself a welder if you don't have one already. Looks like in the future, the only heating appliances we'll be able to afford are the ones WE BUILD ourselves. :mad:

EPA can kiss my rosy red ass!! :mad2:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: sperry On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:17 am

Kevin

Masonry heater Kit is a Temp Cast Product. John's kits make the process of assembly straight foward. His kit really cut the time factor down on this leg of the project. As for the efficient burn claims, I'll refer you to John's web site Tempcast.com. For this customer the heater is more a visual thing. We installed heat pumps as a primary system. Heater works very well but at my house it's the o'l 520 :o

Sperry

It's -6 out 74 insde and I expect to use about 80 lbs of rice today :!:
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Stove/Furnace Make: efm/alaska
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Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: mmcoal On: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:24 am

SMITTY wrote:Berkley ... figures. Just saying the word "Conservative" in that town will get you jail time. :lol:

Yet another reason to never buy anything new.

I suggest getting yourself a welder if you don't have one already. Looks like in the future, the only heating appliances we'll be able to afford are the ones WE BUILD ourselves. :mad:

EPA can kiss my rosy red ass!! :mad2:

I would be afraid say the word conservative up in your neck of the woods also, haha. They seem to have calmed down, but I remember a point where Obama bumper stickers were all the craze up in Warwick.
Oopps, Sorry I was suppose to be replying to "CoalNewbie".
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Coal Size/Type: nut

Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: pine grove coal user On: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:27 pm

They aren't going to stop. On this forum there are many who supported the president. I would love to know what words they will use to try to defend this action. I'm sure, somehow it's not BHO's fault.
I'm so depressed...... :(
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Reading 'bucket a day' stove in storage, waiting for attention
Coal Size/Type: Oiled Pea coal
Other Heating: New Yorker oil burner which almost never runs, thanks to the Tarm!

Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: warminmn On: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:48 pm

Are they going to regulate tire burning stoves too? :o Ah crap, i'll be out of luck, lol

What will they have to do to make a wood stove, or any stove, 2014 epa compliant? Just what would this involve? I'm picturing a big catalytic on it for sure but if they slow the burn down even more then new ones now, they wont put any heat out.

I see the smaller company USA made ones just giving up on them. Too expensive to redesign them. Easier to quit making them. It will just leave the big guys, same crap every time. Will there still be EPA exempt stoves? Non-air tight?
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Junior, Efel Nestor Martin
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Other Heating: wood

Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: KLook On: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:55 pm

Just talked with a guy at Lowes the other day that said his son just bought a new stove. It has the catalytic in it and it is a pain in the butt. Can't run it to hot, can't run it to cool, have to have perfectly dry wood(yeah right :roll: ) They are looking for an old stove to buy. People want what works.
Thanks sperry, I will look it up. I see those being put up on the outdoor patios for the rich people here. I would like to get one myself and at least pretend to be rich. :P

Kevin
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF 3000
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman (Back In Maine)
Stove/Furnace Model: VF 3000

Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:57 pm

warminmn wrote:Are they going to regulate tire burning stoves too? :o Ah crap, i'll be out of luck, lol

What will they have to do to make a wood stove, or any stove, 2014 epa compliant? Just what would this involve? I'm picturing a big catalytic on it for sure but if they slow the burn down even more then new ones now, they wont put any heat out.

I see the smaller company USA made ones just giving up on them. Too expensive to redesign them. Easier to quit making them. It will just leave the big guys, same crap every time. Will there still be EPA exempt stoves? Non-air tight?


Bingo. They want to make them too expensive to manufacture and too expensive to purchase. Therefore, you will not be able to or choose to buy one because it's no longer a viable option for you. An out and out ban is not their way, not at first anyway.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:03 pm

Course they would have a meeting in that liberal cesspool called Boston. Don't know if the yuppies that live in Boston even know what a wood stove is. That's all I don't want to get banned. Matt
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Oak 40
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Re: EPA proposes new wood stove standards

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:14 am

Just hollow the stupid cat out as soon as you uncrate the stove at home, just like we used to do on all our cars before '96 model year. ;)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler