SEPTIC SYSTEM ISSUES

SEPTIC SYSTEM ISSUES

PostBy: gjambor On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:42 am

Hello everyone, first I would like to say how much I enjoy this forum. Friendly , helpful people from all over the USA! I have what I refer to as a seepage pit system. There is a septic tank between the seepage pit and the house. Thats it. So instead of a leach field, the 18 foot deep pit , built with curved blocks that have a "U" shaped opening on top distribute the water coming from the tank. The seepage pit is not draining properly , causing system backup. The septic service company offers a service where they clean off the walls with high pressure water then treat it with various chemicals, caustic soda and then sulphuric acid. Has anyone out there ever had this procedure accomplished ?
Thanks much George
gjambor
 
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Re: SEPTIC SYSTEM ISSUES

PostBy: scalabro On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:12 am

I've never heard of using acids. My neighbors leach fields backed up because he did not have a 25 dollar screen in the outlet pipe "T" of his tank. This allowed solids to enter the leach field pipes, clogging them. He had a company come and clean the inside of the pipes with high pressure water. Then they put 50 gallons of 75% hydrogen peroxide down each leach pipe with a hose and pump. Waited 3 days and put a remedial bacteria solution (15 gallons) in each pipe at the distribution box.

He installed the screen in the tank outlet and has been fine so far for 5 years.
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Re: SEPTIC SYSTEM ISSUES

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:11 pm

Had neighbors do the pump and scrub...
Depends what caused the failure and how old the system is...
When the 'rents system failed we put a 5 gal can of something in...
Forget what it was but the pumper told us about it...
It gave us some breathing room to get a new system in...
The pump and scrub is great if it works and is less expensive than a new system...
Pits fail because the side walls get plugged...
So it depends on your soil type and how the pit was installed...
if the stuff is just caked on the walls and has not penetrated too far into the soil...
Pump and Scrub works...
If the surrounding soil has failed out 2 feet...
Pump and Scrub will not last...
Clay or sand...
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Re: SEPTIC SYSTEM ISSUES

PostBy: mozz On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:37 pm

If you have a septic tank, that seepage pit is acting like a drainfield. If the septic tank lets out solids, you will block the drain field. Only gray water should be coming from the outlet of the septic. Appears your septic is full and sending solids out the outlet which it should not do, now your drainfield(seepage pit) is blocked. You have to have the tank pumped and inspected for a outlet baffle failure or a "t" failure on the outlet. Then you need to have the drainfield(seepage pit) cleaned, cleared or replaced.
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Re: SEPTIC SYSTEM ISSUES

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:13 pm

you have whats called a cesspool system (those around most of MA are an automatic fail today if you went to sell your home), because its a cesspool im going to leap to the conclusion its over 30 years old....so its very likely its run its life cycle. You can open it and powerwash it, scrape the edges down, kill any roots, spray it with some stuffs, etc. but if its run its life cycle its the dirt surrounding it that needs to go... drop a new pit over >>>>>their>>>>>.... connect the old to the new with some of that heavy PVC pipe (the new pit wants to be down far enough to get to the "fluff" so to speak!)... DONE!... for the cost of a bunch of cinder blocks and a length of PVC (in MA this is illegal so im assuming its legal where you are if your so inclined to discover and its a concern of yours toothy)
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Re: SEPTIC SYSTEM ISSUES

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:27 pm

He has a tank...
With a pit...
Not a cesspool...
Legal in MA if not selling house...
But if DA Man finds out it failed...
You gotta replace it...
With a field...
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Re: SEPTIC SYSTEM ISSUES

PostBy: gjambor On: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:12 am

thanks for all the replies, in 2012 pits became illegal in the communist state of nj I am going to try to rehab the pit and fix the tank outlet baffle before getting a whole new system.
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Re: SEPTIC SYSTEM ISSUES

PostBy: gjambor On: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:49 pm

update on my septic issues,, I had a septic service company come out. They emptied my seepage pit of 2000 gallons of "water". Then they used a high pressure sprayer to remove material from the drainage areas of all the blocks. The sprayer is lowered into the hole and while it sprays , it also spins to be able to spray sideways toward the walls of the pit.. A few weeks later after the pit has partially refilled they dump 100 #s of Lye in the pit .This further eats away at accumulated materials that have been blocking drainage. I am happy to report the level in the pit is now stabilized and i have even seen it go down from one day to the next
Goota go , George
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