Thinking of forced air furnace

Re: Thinking of forced air furnace

PostBy: mahanoydan On: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:27 am

you could get a heat exchanger fed by forced hot water or antifreeze for your forced hot air ductwork, which can be fired by whatever fuel choice you decide, this is the way I would go. I used to have propane in the past it did not seem as bad as people say but either way your gonna pay a lot more than coal. good luck. parlor stove type burning pellets is a nice zone heater for the room you use most for comfort...
mahanoydan
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: n/a
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: n/a
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: yukon polar coal/wood with oil fired backup
Hand Fed Coal Stove: fatso parlor type,,loove that little fella
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: keystoker hearth,
Other Heating: vermont casting defiant, oilfired forced hot water

Re: Thinking of forced air furnace

PostBy: titleist1 On: Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:48 am

Freddy wrote: Owning your own propane tank.... don't forget they need to be inspected once every 12 years. In this area that means uproot them, take them in, have them inspected and return them to duty.


So far down here they just 'pressure test' them while they are in place which involves filling, turning off valve and checking after 24 hrs to see they held the same volume. But that could always change! When I call around for prices, a couple of the companies that we had not done business with before wanted to do this test even though the tanks are less than 10 years old. And of course they charge a service fee to do this.

If it does change, I don't think I would want to dig up my 1k gal tank and haul it into some testing station somewhere!
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Thinking of forced air furnace

PostBy: beemerboy On: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:07 pm

One of the reasons I am thinking of propane is eventually, I'd like to replace my electric water heater with gas. My water heater is in a cupboard on an outside wall. I'm pretty sure I put a gas heater there. A hole for a flue could go through the wall without too much difficulty. I can always remove the cabinetry if needed. Piping for the gas would be easier.

Also, I might be able to pipe in for a gas stove. I have cooked with a gas stove and I liked it better than my electric.

I know that coal is cheaper to use, but I'm thinking of the future when I'm not able to handle it.
beemerboy
 
Stove/Furnace Make: SAEY
Stove/Furnace Model: Hannover 1


Re: Thinking of forced air furnace

PostBy: titleist1 On: Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:11 pm

That was why i went with propane rather than oil for the furnace. Propane is also used here for dryer, water heater and cooktop. I will also probably get a propane generator in the future.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Thinking of forced air furnace

PostBy: Berlin On: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:38 pm

beemerboy wrote:One of the reasons I am thinking of propane is eventually, I'd like to replace my electric water heater with gas. My water heater is in a cupboard on an outside wall. I'm pretty sure I put a gas heater there. A hole for a flue could go through the wall without too much difficulty. I can always remove the cabinetry if needed. Piping for the gas would be easier.

Also, I might be able to pipe in for a gas stove. I have cooked with a gas stove and I liked it better than my electric.

I know that coal is cheaper to use, but I'm thinking of the future when I'm not able to handle it.


well, you can do all those things with heating oil, except the dryer. However, cooking ranges that burn heating oil are quite expensive compared to a standard LP range. Oil water heaters are common and, one of the best ways to heat domestic water - set the aquastat to 120º (for low standby losses) and they act like an on-demand water heater - fired @ .65gph or better, they don't really run out. If you want a gas stove, just get a large bottle or two and run the stove off propane, but for heat (outside of coal, of course) you can't beat oil.
Berlin
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal

Re: Thinking of forced air furnace

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:56 pm

Propane is more competitive in some areas than others. My in-laws live about 3 hrs West of me and filled their tank this fall for $1.40 per gallon. In my area that is unheard of. The few people I have talked to that heat their homes with it around me pre-bought at $2.29 this year.

100 lb tanks are fine if you are in shape to handle them and haul them to be filled...most gas companies will not deliver to them unless you get the tanks from them also.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Thinking of forced air furnace

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:45 pm

I'm not sure how they do things in Ct. , but here in Pa. , I just call the propane company when 1 of my 100lb tanks is empty and most of the time they bring a full tank the same day and take the old one to be tested and refilled. I have a 2 tank system for my LP kitchen range.
I also put a 275 gallon oil tank in my coal bin years ago. They said it wouldn't fit down my basement stairs, I showed them that it would. It sits empty surrounded by coal :D
I also installed my Clayton furnace myself. My coal bin door was just big enough to slide the furnace through and lower it with the winch on my 4 wheeler. Then I walked it thru the coal bin and into the main basement area.
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous. Labeled as 'Big Vein', about the size of acorns. Makes a lot of ash, but heats well and lasts longer than my previous coal.

Re: Thinking of forced air furnace

PostBy: beemerboy On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:29 pm

To give you an idea how my house is laid out and where the furnace and tanks would go. also where the water heater is located.
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beemerboy
 
Stove/Furnace Make: SAEY
Stove/Furnace Model: Hannover 1

Re: Thinking of forced air furnace

PostBy: dcrane On: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:46 am

Hey Bro... hope all is going well for you! tell mom hi from me!

Interesting read here regarding propane user... i just did not want you to miss it Question about integrating a coal furnace?
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Thinking of forced air furnace

PostBy: beemerboy On: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:12 pm

dcrane wrote:Hey Bro... hope all is going well for you! tell mom hi from me!

Interesting read here regarding propane user... i just did not want you to miss it Question about integrating a coal furnace?


While I would prefer coal, I'm at the point that hauling, shoveling the coal and ashes is becoming just too much for me. That's why I'm looking into other fuels that don't require the heavy lifting.
beemerboy
 
Stove/Furnace Make: SAEY
Stove/Furnace Model: Hannover 1