What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:28 am

http://coaldiver.org/coal-diver/Pennsylvania-Anthracite

PS: There is some great stuff on this website.
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:55 am

Only thing I remember is the price of diesel dropped big time...it was about $1 per gallon.
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:37 am

Why no recovery for anthracite when diesel is now at about $3.90/gal. and #2 heating oil is at about $3.55/gal?

It almost seems to be that as fuel/heating oil prices rise anthracite production declines. Seems to me that just the opposite should be intuitively correct. Perhaps some other reason caused anthracite production to drop like a rock post 1998?
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: blrman07 On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:18 am

China coal production was around 300 million tons and production and consumption started skyrocketing when they started their push for industrial supremacy over the US in 1980. They were importing a majority of what they used from guess where? Yep USA.

Today they are mining and consuming almost 1,600 million tons of their own coal. When your best customer starts producing their own raw materials instead of buying it from you it makes an impact.

Rev. Larry
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Ashland Pa.
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:33 am

blrman07 wrote:China coal production was around 300 million tons and production and consumption started skyrocketing when they started their push for industrial supremacy over the US in 1980. They were importing a majority of what they used from guess where? Yep USA.

Today they are mining and consuming almost 1,600 million tons of their own coal. When your best customer starts producing their own raw materials instead of buying it from you it makes an impact.

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland Pa.


That makes good sense!
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:50 pm

Couple that with US EPA Bullying and Harrassment Tactics and I think you've got your answer.
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:52 pm

i thought China was buying again...??
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:22 pm

Things are in place already to move coal in short order.
As is everywhere, it is all about the money...when it becomes more economical to get the US coal, they will get it.
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:49 pm

McGiever wrote:Things are in place already to move coal in short order.
As is everywhere, it is all about the money...when it becomes more economical to get the US coal, they will get it.


I hope this is TRUE :)
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:50 pm

2001Sierra wrote:
McGiever wrote:Things are in place already to move coal in short order.
As is everywhere, it is all about the money...when it becomes more economical to get the US coal, they will get it.


I hope this is TRUE :)


You want anthracite exported to China?
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:03 pm

I hope this is TRUE :)[/quote]

You want anthracite exported to China?[/quote]

OOPS :oops: I was looking at production numbers then postcard photos and did not read everything, I interpreted everything was ready for us NOT CHINA! :mad:
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:12 pm

Thank You ! :up:
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: dlj On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:56 pm

I've been listening to the idea that the Chinese are going to buy anthracite from the US. But I have to ask, why would they do that? It would be an extremely expensive fuel source for them.

dj
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:11 pm

dlj wrote:I've been listening to the idea that the Chinese are going to buy anthracite from the US. But I have to ask, why would they do that? It would be an extremely expensive fuel source for them.

dj


They don't use it as fuel. They use it as a substitute for coke.
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Re: What happened post 1998 to devastate anthracite production?

PostBy: dlj On: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:18 pm

lsayre wrote:
dlj wrote:I've been listening to the idea that the Chinese are going to buy anthracite from the US. But I have to ask, why would they do that? It would be an extremely expensive fuel source for them.

dj


They don't use it as fuel. They use it as a substitute for coke.


But they can buy anthracite from Russia, Vietnam and North Korea. Why would they come to the eastern US?

dj
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