Heavy Duty Truck purchase

Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:34 pm

Off Topic,But Alright,Flyer,I'll Bite ! I haven't been to Atlanta since the Early 80's. Back when Psycho Wayne Williams was carving Folks Up and their Big Drought was on. What do they have going on down there now? Black Market Pick A Body Part? This Crazy Crap Never Ends ! :bang:
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: KLook On: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:34 pm

Young man that works with me went down to Atlanta and got an F350 Harley Davidson edition with tons of extras. Like a big old second fuel tank in the bed......nice. He tows.........nothing. He parks it some as it costs to much to drive! I tow almost every day, I could use one.

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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:42 pm

Hambden Bob wrote:Off Topic,But Alright,Flyer,I'll Bite ! I haven't been to Atlanta since the Early 80's. Back when Psycho Wayne Williams was carving Folks Up and their Big Drought was on. What do they have going on down there now? Black Market Pick A Body Part? This Crazy Crap Never Ends ! :bang:



Sent ya a P M so not to take it to far from topic but basically http://www.atlnightspots.com/atlanta-ma ... n-america/


Back on topic .There are a few dealers in TX that advertise on EBay that seem to get some nice trucks for reasonable prices. If I do upgrade probably where I will go.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: mmcoal On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:00 am

Wanna Bee wrote:
mmcoal wrote:When towing there could be significant difference in fuel economy between gasoline and diesel, but empty vs empty it's not always a big difference. My brother averages about 16mpg with his one ton Dmax empty while I can average 13-14mpg with my 3/4HD empty with a 6.0 gas engine. Lets just say my brother and I average about 25K miles a year each and I get 13mpg with my gasser and he gets 16mpg with his diesel. If my brother pays about $3.80 for diesel and I pay about $3.40 for gasoline, my brother will save about $500-600 a year over me which would be close to a 10 year pay back period for his diesel depending on any kind of repairs our engines may need along the way. Realistically I drive much less than 25K miles a year so a diesel was way out of the picture for me. Diesels are fun, but for most people they aren't as cost effective as you might think.


Understood, but...put the trucks in a truck environment. Driving around empty isn't it.
I had two identical trucks, one gas one diesel. Both did the same exact thing for my construction co. Mostly towing equipment. There was no comparison in power, fuel economy, reliability.

Today the diesel is driven almost daily. The gasser was sent to the scrap yard.

And BTW;
I drive an eco box for everything. Comuting in one of my trucks would just be idiotic.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying diesels aren't worth it in the right situation, but you have to be willing to hold onto your truck for awhile. Like I said I grew up around diesels, my father has only ever owner diesel trucks for his masonry business and as much as he loves the power of his Dmax dump truck, he said if he ever needed another truck it would be gas. There are plenty of reliable diesels out there, but the longevity of these new ones is yet to be seen.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:35 am

SMITTY wrote:
If it were me, I'd get on eBay, or pick a town down south and get their local classifieds. Well worth the fuel and time to buy an older one rust-free down there, and bring it up north.

Just my .02 - don't say I didn't warn ya!!



That's exactly what my friend from Maine did. He had called me up asking me to look around for a SD truck for him without rust. NOTHING IN THIS AREA WILL NOT HAVE SOME RUST !!! Thanks to all the brining they do on the roads.

I told him to go further south and he did. We have quite the network of body shops so when he located one that looked good, he had a local shop inspect it for him. Then flew down to get it and drove it home. Almost immediately, he rustproofed the chit out of it. So much for the manufacturers and their specialized blend of metal on the undersides to prevent corrosion. :mad:

I never did my 2000 F250 SD and am now paying for it. Both cab corners and the bottoms on all 4 doors are leaving this earthly abode. And like the cobbler's kids who have no shoes, my truck rusts away while I fix others.

As far as repairing or replacing an oil pan on the 7.3, if I had to do it over again, I would raise the cab off the frame to allow access to remove the engine from the frame. They really tuck that engine under the cowl making access to the exhaust clamps a real bitch. And then you need a heavy duty cherry picker with a long arm to try to wiggle the engine out.

Some day I would like to be locked in a room with several of the manufacturer's design engineers so we could have a "discussion" on how easy they make it to service the vehicle after it leaves the assembly line!!!! And I'd be sure to include Smitty in the "discussion."




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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:01 am

I'll bring the whiskey! :D


Hindsight is always 20/20 as they say ..... I should've dumped my Silverado years ago when it was worth something, & kept my '72 El Camino. With the $20k I could've got for the truck, I could've done a complete frame off resto, complete new driveline with crate big block and a Gear Vendors splitter that will turn the TH350 into a 6 speed for killer mileage ... AND I still would've had money left over for another 1st gen S-10 Blazer or pickup for a winter beater .... maybe even a V8 project in one too! And some coal.

Sometimes I wonder what happened to my brain ... :doh: :( Now I'm stuck with the Silverado for 40 years. Guess I'd better keep up with the monthly frame oilings if I expect it to last that long ....
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:18 am

Sometimes I wonder what happened to my brain ... :doh: :( Now I'm stuck with the Silverado for 40 years.


I was a little busy yesterday. My beat up 2000 F350 dually (7.3) had to drive to Fairfield CT to pick up a horse and trailer pulled by a brandy new diesel Chevy 3500 with 5000 miles on it that was making a very strange noise and was shut down. A phone call to the stealership revealed that they thought the noise was normal (no way - Jose!) and then they refused to return calls. I just love the EPA. Pure union junk.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:22 am

Yep - that's GOVERNMENT MOTORS for ya ... :sick: :mad:

They also consider one quart every 1,000 miles NORMAL in a brand new truck ... :wtf:
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:30 am

anthony7812 wrote:The New DEF crap ruined diesels. Just my opinion. Friend bought a bran spakin new ford f250 diesel, had the def system removed new exhaust and intake and had to install a programmer. This VOIDED every single warranty for his truck. Crazy nonsense. He has an awesome and powerful pickup, a very expensive pickup.


Well, to be fair if he added a Tune to it then yeah, it's going to void your warranty because; especially on the newer Fords you basically have to go into the PCM "Unlock" and "Root" it to add the Tune. So, Ford is going to see that if something goes wrong and is going to tell you to take a hike. I'm willing to bet they didn't void the warranty just based off an intake and exhaust. Although, they will do that too. Which is why I refuse to mess with my F-150 ever.

Having said that, I'd definitely look at the Ford trucks over the Dodge and this is coming from a long time Dodge guy. I've owned my '13 F-150 for about six months now and I love it. I did look at the Dodge Rams before I bought my current truck and I just didn't like them. Although, I can't really compare my truck to the diesel since I've got the Ecoboost in mine so definitely take my opinion with a grain of salt.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:36 am

My neighbor has an Ecoboost ... and it's been to the dealer SEVERAL times for leaving him dead facing oncoming traffic while trying to legally pass someone. He's afraid he's going to get killed in his brand new $50k truck!

Make sure you put your foot into it at least once every time you drive it. If he hadn't taken it on a long highway trip, he probably never would've realized there was a problem until long after the warranty had expired. Just what Ford wants, I'd imagine. There's a fix for the problem involving something in the intercooler & some sensors ... but that only works 50% of the time according to Ford.

My neighbor is preparing a court case ....

You just can't win today with any brand! :(

Wheeled toilets ..... :flush:
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:40 am

Forum member Lsfarm has a lot of experience with the Dodge/Cummins trucks, perhaps he can advise on what it takes to straighten out the post 07 models.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:51 am

If I ever have a mental meltdown and buy ANYTHING Detroit ever again, install a dash cam or two so that when you come close to killing yourself you have recorded the incident. Fix the mechanicals (if that is even possible) and sue them for reckless endangerment. Forget class action suits only the attorneys make out there.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: mmcoal On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:43 pm

coalnewbie wrote:If I ever have a mental meltdown and buy ANYTHING Detroit ever again, install a dash cam or two so that when you come close to killing yourself you have recorded the incident. Fix the mechanicals (if that is even possible) and sue them for reckless endangerment. Forget class action suits only the attorneys make out there.

My neighbor should have done that with the two Toyotas that nearly killed him because of brake issues. But oh wait, I thought foreign was suppose to be so superior? Check out http://www.carcomplaints.com and you will see unbiased complaints about most vehicles today.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:39 pm

SMITTY wrote:My neighbor has an Ecoboost ... and it's been to the dealer SEVERAL times for leaving him dead facing oncoming traffic while trying to legally pass someone. He's afraid he's going to get killed in his brand new $50k truck!

Make sure you put your foot into it at least once every time you drive it. If he hadn't taken it on a long highway trip, he probably never would've realized there was a problem until long after the warranty had expired. Just what Ford wants, I'd imagine. There's a fix for the problem involving something in the intercooler & some sensors ... but that only works 50% of the time according to Ford.

My neighbor is preparing a court case ....

You just can't win today with any brand! :(

Wheeled toilets ..... :flush:


It's a known issue that has plagued the Ecoboost since it's rollout a few years ago. It has to do with condensation settling in the bottom of the intercooler then when you get on it, it drinks all the water that has pooled. Ford's fixes don't work. Mine has the fix before the last fix. I've not experienced the issue and hope not to. But even the new fix still has issues with it. Some guys have resorted to buying the full race intercooler at $3k and putting that in but some report still having the issue. Others have drilled an 1/8" hole in the base of the intercooler just before the "cold" side pipe with mixed results.

I goose it every now and then but I don't drive a whole hell of a lot. Hell, it was supposed to go in for it's first oil change in November at 5k miles. Here we are nearing the middle of January and I'm only at 4600. My wife drives it more than I do.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:11 pm

I'm On Fire wrote:
anthony7812 wrote:The New DEF crap ruined diesels. Just my opinion. Friend bought a bran spakin new ford f250 diesel, had the def system removed new exhaust and intake and had to install a programmer. This VOIDED every single warranty for his truck. Crazy nonsense. He has an awesome and powerful pickup, a very expensive pickup.


Well, to be fair if he added a Tune to it then yeah, it's going to void your warranty because; especially on the newer Fords you basically have to go into the PCM "Unlock" and "Root" it to add the Tune. So, Ford is going to see that if something goes wrong and is going to tell you to take a hike. I'm willing to bet they didn't void the warranty just based off an intake and exhaust. Although, they will do that too. Which is why I refuse to mess with my F-150 ever. .


The programmer was needed due to removing DEF system. No DEF No GO. He tore it all out, redicoulous money spent, but the blue junk is no longer needed.
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