Heavy Duty Truck purchase

Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:09 am

The EPA has the pathetic habit of creating a Black Market every time they destroy something.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:37 am

Hambden Bob wrote:The EPA has the pathetic habit of creating a Black Market every time they destroy something.


They have sure made glider kits popular. The milk and grain hauling companies near me order gliders (brand new truck minus engine and transmission) and install pre-2007 diesels in them. They get a new truck with a rebuild/used engine that gets better mileage, is more reliable, and can handle longer oil changes than the current models.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:30 am

That's the way to do it right there. :idea:

Speaking of wheeled toilets, and current manufacturing/engineering in the automotive world ......... my neighbor came over yesterday with his '09 Escape. He couldn't get into the driver's side from the outside! The inside door handle worked, but the outside one wouldn't.

I figured an easy fix - probably the rod popped out or something stupid. Well, maybe 20 years ago ... but today, we have a latch system that incorporates a PILE of electronic do-dads - the door lock solenoids, keypad entry circuitry, and all the normal locks and levers ... all in one THREE HUNDRED DOLLAR UNIT!!!!!!!!! :wtf:

I almost fainted when I looked it up online!! Oh, and it took me about 45 minutes of surfing the net before I could find the correct part ... :mad:

Did I mention how much of a BITCH this thing was to remove??? WOW what a joke!! Took me around an hour! Then I tried to disassemble the unit to see what had broken inside. NOPE! Completely unserviceable. Every plastic tab I tried to lift broke off, and the center of the giant plastic housing is riveted in place to shafts inside the unit ... so if you were to force it apart, everything would fall out in a pile and you'd never get it back together again.

$300 on a 5 YEAR OLD vehicle!! Unbelievable!! Was a small .02 cent piece of plastic that broke off inside. I could've probably welded it back together if not for that stupid assed design! I'm convinced the sole purpose of modern vehicles is to keep you BROKE and in ENDLESS DEBT ... :sick:
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:45 pm

SMITTY wrote:..Oh, and it took me about 45 minutes of surfing the net before I could find the correct part ... :mad:





Welcome to my world !!!!!!


Just had a customer that broke his mirror on a 2012 Chevy 1500. Find out that they use 3 different styles of mirror on this truck. So I get the VIN, get the option code for the mirror off the service label and call the stealership. Only to be told that there are 3 different choices of that 1 style mirror. 1 is smooth and painted in the body color, 1 is chrome, and the one I need is covered in black textured plastic.

Or the customer who needs a tail lamp for her 2004 Taurus. I now have to look to see if there are 3 or 4 mounting studs on it...... AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!! :mad:

And they wonder why no one stocks parts anymore. Or a stealership brags about having over $2 million in inventory and still will not have the correct part.


Yep time to crack open another bottle........ :drunk:



Rick
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: mmcoal On: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:04 pm

Rick 386 wrote:
SMITTY wrote:..Oh, and it took me about 45 minutes of surfing the net before I could find the correct part ... :mad:





Welcome to my world !!!!!!


Just had a customer that broke his mirror on a 2012 Chevy 1500. Find out that they use 3 different styles of mirror on this truck. So I get the VIN, get the option code for the mirror off the service label and call the stealership. Only to be told that there are 3 different choices of that 1 style mirror. 1 is smooth and painted in the body color, 1 is chrome, and the one I need is covered in black textured plastic.

Or the customer who needs a tail lamp for her 2004 Taurus. I now have to look to see if there are 3 or 4 mounting studs on it...... AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!! :mad:

And they wonder why no one stocks parts anymore. Or a stealership brags about having over $2 million in inventory and still will not have the correct part.


Yep time to crack open another bottle........ :drunk:



Rick

A good friend of mine works as a parts manager at a dealership and these stories are endless. The amount of one piece assemblies that cost a fortune are insane. Power heated mirrors, power window assemblies, push button 4wd parts, fuel pump/sending unit assemblies and the list goes on. Let others enjoy all the expensive cushy push button power junk, I'll stick with my bare bones work truck with AM/FM and manual shift 4wd.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:12 pm

Rick 386 wrote:
SMITTY wrote:..Oh, and it took me about 45 minutes of surfing the net before I could find the correct part ... :mad:





Welcome to my world !!!!!!


Just had a customer that broke his mirror on a 2012 Chevy 1500. Find out that they use 3 different styles of mirror on this truck. So I get the VIN, get the option code for the mirror off the service label and call the stealership. Only to be told that there are 3 different choices of that 1 style mirror. 1 is smooth and painted in the body color, 1 is chrome, and the one I need is covered in black textured plastic.

Or the customer who needs a tail lamp for her 2004 Taurus. I now have to look to see if there are 3 or 4 mounting studs on it...... AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!! :mad:

And they wonder why no one stocks parts anymore. Or a stealership brags about having over $2 million in inventory and still will not have the correct part.


Yep time to crack open another bottle........ :drunk:



Rick


A major reason I left the auto repair business back in 97. And if they had the correct parts in stock there was a 50/50 chance the electronic parts would even be good.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:38 pm

Let others enjoy all the expensive cushy push button power junk, I'll stick with my bare bones work truck with AM/FM and manual shift 4wd.


You need to move onto the next generation of F150s. The bed is still made of a poor quality steel that rusts. The front is aluminum that with road salt will rust next to the chassis but the Al can't be undented and you will have to buy a very expensive whole body panel if you ding it. Did we learn nothing from the Delorean. Add endless trivial electronic gizmos that no one knows how to fix and stupid emission systems and it's a rosy future for the stealerships. That's progress for you.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:22 pm

coalnewbie wrote:
You need to move onto the next generation of F150s. The bed is still made of a poor quality steel that rusts. The front is aluminum that with road salt will rust next to the chassis but the Al can't be undented and you will have to buy a very expensive whole body panel if you ding it. Did we learn nothing from the Delorean. Add endless trivial electronic gizmos that no one knows how to fix and stupid emission systems and it's a rosy future for the stealerships. That's progress for you.



My understanding is that it will be an aluminum cab and bed. Yep that should work out real well here in the northeast with all the brine they keep throwing down every time there is a hint of snow.

The real issue will be that aluminum requires a complete set of tools and a separate area to work on aluminum panels. Cross contamination by using steel tools on aluminum panels will create a whole myriad of problems. And a lot of auto body shops, mine included, are not set up to repair them. Plus we will need specialized training to boot. I know some of my friends who have shops set up for the aluminum cars and they had quite the substantial investment in tools and training just to be able to get certified in working on those vehicles. And that investment does not equate to the way insurers have been paying for those repairs. On a lot of the aluminum cars, the body panels are glued and riveted in place.


On another note, my brother is set to order a new F250 SD King Ranch. It will be interesting to follow his warranty issues. I may have to start a whole new thread chronicling his woes......



Rick
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:44 pm

Probably have to import some illegal Brits to work on aluminum. Just like all the Land/Range Rovers. :lol:

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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:42 pm

I bet we will see Alan Mulally, Fords CEO, take over at Alcoa.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:05 pm

Had to plug in the 7.3 block heater today. :oops: First time in ten years
Thermometer had the temp at 3, wind chill was -8

Half hour on the cord and she was up and running. :D
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Berlin On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:23 pm

Are you running 15w-40? or 5w40? Are all your glowplugs functional? I just had my truck in -17 weather a bit ago and started just fine w/ out plugging in. Having said that, plugging it in is better for it, but, you should be able to start first try temps like you had unplugged. I recommend chevron 5w40 @ wal-mart for $19.99/gallon full synth. and excellent cold performance. cheapest synthetic out there and one of the best. I've switched to it from M1TDT. 5w40 makes a big difference in cold weather over 15w40 (and cold fuel economy!)
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:46 pm

Rottella 15/40 since new. 285,000 miles with no oil related issues keeps me from trying the next new magic potion.
She sat for about a week untouched in some cold temps. Had I been running her daily she'd of lit without to much fuss.

Next is to see if the almighty Cummins starts (its like a competition, I love the ford) :D still running the original batteries from new (07)

Block heaters cost to much yo use if your paying the electric bill. I think the one in the 7.3 has a 1400w draw.
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:54 pm

Wanna Bee wrote:no oil related issues


Other than poor cranking speed at subzero temperatures...
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Re: Heavy Duty Truck purchase

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:03 pm

Rob R. wrote:
Wanna Bee wrote:no oil related issues


Other than poor cranking speed at subzero temperatures...


Bwah!
7.3 is a HUEI engine. They don't play nice with low viscosity oils. Not recommended to tow with anything other than 15-40 in the crank case. Truck only ever see's big boy towing jobs. 8,000lbs plus when its running its towing.
5-40 isn't in the cards for my truck.
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