dump trailer coal door and shute pics

dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: sandman On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:09 pm

i just picked up a dump trailer and want to make a coal door on the trailer and some sort of shute to get it through a cellar window.

anyone have any pictures or cool ideas on how to make something like this?

as of right now i'm going to make a new door for the trailer and incorporate some sort of guillotine door for the coal.

then more than likely bent up some 14g steel into a shute.

tia
jim
sandman
 
Stove/Furnace Make: harman
Stove/Furnace Model: VF3000, mark III sf150&250

Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:23 pm

You can make a decent chute with poly 55 gallon drums. Cut the tops and bottoms off about an inch from the end and then split them in half. Use some drywall screws to secure them to (2) 2 X 6s (2 X 4s may even work fine). Secure them so the wood is closer to vertical than horizontal, but you can move them around a little to rest the ends properly. Should cost close to nothing and a lot easier than bending sheet metal. Half a barrel goes right through my cellar window.

The lap goes downhill. :roll:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: sandman On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:35 pm

coaledsweat wrote:You can make a decent chute with poly 55 gallon drums. Cut the tops and bottoms off about an inch from the end and then split them in half. Use some drywall screws to secure them to (2) 2 X 6s (2 X 4s may even work fine). Secure them so the wood is closer to vertical than horizontal, but you can move them around a little to rest the ends properly. Should cost close to nothing and a lot easier than bending sheet metal. Half a barrel goes right through my cellar window.

The lap goes downhill. :roll:


thanks, thats a great idea.

i might even have a couple of donor barrels.

for me it would be easier to make them out of metal.

i have the sheet stock a 8' shear and a 8' brake.

jim
sandman
 
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Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:38 pm

Use stainless, aluminum or plastic in that order, the smoother the better. If it's rice you will need at least 40 degrees on a slippery surface. Also bear in mind when you dump it the back end of the trailer gets even lower yet. A shorter chute is always better because you'll get more pitch but that really depends on where you need to put it.

On the cheap line something with aluminum or vinyl siding.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:40 pm

Richard S. wrote:Use stainless, aluminum or plastic in that order, the smoother the better. If it's rice you will need at least 40 degrees. Also bear in mind when you dump it the back end of the trailer gets even lower yet. A shorter chute is always better because you'll get more pitch but that really depends on where you need to put it.

On the cheap line something with aluminum or vinyl siding.


A new excuse to rip more of the aluminum siding off of the house! Wait till I tell my wife....or maybe not... :bop:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: sandman On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:59 pm

Richard S. wrote:Use stainless, aluminum or plastic in that order, the smoother the better. If it's rice you will need at least 40 degrees on a slippery surface. Also bear in mind when you dump it the back end of the trailer gets even lower yet. A shorter chute is always better because you'll get more pitch but that really depends on where you need to put it.

On the cheap line something with aluminum or vinyl siding.



thanks

it's rice and i'm shooting for 45º. the trailer i have is over the wheels and the pivot is very close to the end, so i dont loose much clearance with the trailer up.

i'm hoping to be able to center up on the window and maybe hang the shute from the trailer with chains under the coal door?

does the shute usually attach to the truck or trailer?
sandman
 
Stove/Furnace Make: harman
Stove/Furnace Model: VF3000, mark III sf150&250

Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:13 pm

A coal chute has centered hook on it underneath, there's 3 hooks on the truck. One for going straight off the back and two for going left or right.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:38 pm

Richard S. wrote:A coal chute has centered hook on it underneath, there's 3 hooks on the truck. One for going straight off the back and two for going left or right.


Pics? :)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: Wardner On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:56 pm

Goto Craigslist and find a 275 gallon oil tank. There are a couple everyday in the Boston edition.

They are usually given away free but you might have to rig it out of the house, One tank will give you a total of 10 feet. A 330 gallon (kinda rare) will yield 12 feet of shute. I cut them all the time with a torch.

We are not that far apart. I can sell you two 5" shutes for $50 each.

As for a tailgate door, you should go to a dump trailer mfg site. I am sure you will find some pictures.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hass and Sohn
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Other Heating: Shenandoah coal/wood

Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:02 pm

This is the best I can do right now, The one with red arrow points to hook for going off to the side. The second is a mock of a chute if you were looking at it from the side. It's very simple...
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: sandman On: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:59 pm

Wardner wrote:Goto Craigslist and find a 275 gallon oil tank. There are a couple everyday in the Boston edition.

They are usually given away free but you might have to rig it out of the house, One tank will give you a total of 10 feet. A 330 gallon (kinda rare) will yield 12 feet of shute. I cut them all the time with a torch.

We are not that far apart. I can sell you two 5" shutes for $50 each.

As for a tailgate door, you should go to a dump trailer mfg site. I am sure you will find some pictures.



thats a great idea!

additionally now i know what to do with the tank i've been wanting to get rid of.

i've already got some pics from the trailer sites but want some more ideas before we start making the doors
sandman
 
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Stove/Furnace Model: VF3000, mark III sf150&250

Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: e.alleg On: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:26 pm

I checked on a dump trailer today while I was at the dealer for a new motorcycle trailer, $5200 bucks for a tandem axle dump, hold 5 tons. I don't think that 5 tons of coal would fit in it, maybe if mounded up in the center. Car-Mate has one that holds 8.4 cubic yards, that trailer is way more $$$$ but probably worth it in the long run. (I am going to buy a new Car-Mate 5x8 trailer for my business, they look like they are built right) I decided bags are the way to go for me, for now anyway. If I went to using bulk coal delivered by the local dealers I could save $150-$200 a year but I lose part of my workshop space, picking it up at the breaker in PA would save me nothing considering the fuel and equipment expenses. You guys that live near the breakers have got it made price wise.
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Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: Dallas On: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:41 pm

I made a chute from a piece of galvanized metal roofing, which I had laying around (new). Just bent the sides up to right angles.
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Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: billw On: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:59 pm

Richard, how high will those coal trucks reach?
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Re: dump trailer coal door and shute pics

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:03 pm

If all the stars align I can probably put it in window 8 foot+ off the ground. I'd Need a flat area and be able to back the truck within about 3 feet of the structure. I have a very short chute that is just the right length for that. Here's full picture. that's the 5 ton, the nose of the 7 ton is on the right.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
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