Tending Time - 12 Hours Vs 24 Hours

2001Sierra wrote:I do admit I have a little more boredum with my stoker But I do like some of the freedom it gives me, especially in the shoulder months.

Yeah, I'll eventually have a stoker in the basement down the road.. Maybe...
Only IF I'm allowed to have a classy antique hand fed in the living room..

Rob R. wrote: Those Surdiac stoves are known to snuff themselves out pretty quick if the coal produces much ash.

Or if installed W/O a baro.

Results are in for ash content over the last 8 days (Sunday to Sunday) for the 24 hour shake and load tending. I used 454 pounds of coal that measured 58 pounds of ash. This gives me 12.5% waste. This percentage seems pretty good compared to others I've seen posted.

There was also 309 heated degrees (weather underground) for the same 8 days.. Makes for 1.469 pounds of coal per degree if I did that right. (Yes, I went out to the thousandths decimal place on that )

Next I'll compare ash percentage and pounds per degree on the 12 hour shake and load tending.

Wow! You're getting pretty crazy with those stats Lee. (I like it)
Now you're giving me some more data to collect.

I can end this entire thread. 12 hr vs 24 hr.... Every 12 hrs you shake/load Every 24 hrs you shake load. Facts are Facts... if you choose 12hrs or have to, your performing the shake load action 2x more than a 24hr routine.... im smart. Sorry had a chuckle over this thread no pun intened.

joeq wrote:Wow! You're getting pretty crazy with those stats Lee. (I like it)
Now you're giving me some more data to collect.

If things work out like I suspect,, it will implicate some rather fascinating truths about hand fed coal burning. I'll save that for later. ..

So to put an analogy to this Tony, your saying if you drive your car till 1/2 a tank, (from full), then stop and refill, you'll be spending twice as many times filling, than if you just drove it till it was M/T.(?)

joeq wrote:So to put an analogy to this Tony, your saying if you drive your car till 1/2 a tank, (from full), then stop and refill, you'll be spending twice as many times filling, than if you just drove it till it was M/T.(?)

You will be filling it more often YES! (notice I didn't say spending)

anthony7812 wrote:

joeq wrote:So to put an analogy to this Tony, your saying if you drive your car till 1/2 a tank, (from full), then stop and refill, you'll be spending twice as many times filling, than if you just drove it till it was M/T.(?)

You will be filling it more often YES! (notice I didn't say spending)

Interesting analogy... Lets look at stopping to fill up. Well, we gotta slow the car down, pull into a gas staion, fill the tank, get back out on the highway and get back up to 65 MPH.. All of that takes more energy and more gas than instead just driving on by till the tank is empty.. What about the added weight of the fuel when filling once vs filling again at half a tank? Will it cause a difference in consumption? Maybe, a little more friction of the rubber hitting the road.... So yes, this is the point of the experiment, to see if you'll be spending more..

good god man your noggin is gonna explode. Your either a banker or an engineer my friend. Im sticken with Fred, do what works for you. I give up, you win.

Not looking to win my friend just a curious coal burner lol. I'm just a bread man that should have pursued a career in science

I watch Myth Busters a lot haha ...

Interesting analogy... Lets look at stopping to fill up. Well, we gotta slow the car down, pull into a gas staion, fill the tank, get back out on the highway and get back up to 65 MPH.. All of that takes more energy and more gas than instead just driving on by till the tank is empty.. What about the added weight of the fuel when filling once vs filling again at half a tank? Will it cause a difference in consumption? Maybe, a little more friction of the rubber hitting the road.... So yes, this is the point of the experiment, to see if you'll be spending more..
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What happens when you pass the first station at half tank, and the trip is all up hill from there? And you realize you're going to run short before the next station (or some other short coming). Myself, I'd gladly pay the little extra for the inconvenience, which I don't consider an inconvenience at all. I enjoy tending my hand fired coal stove. I know your words are only example. Mine are example as well.

BUT, let's go back to fire catch up time with 12 hr tending compared to 24 hr tending---I personally will stick with my 12 hrs. No catch up time with my hopper:)

I understand both your cases and I agree you don't wanna push the fire too far since it was colder the night before. I had that issue on my last day of the 24 hour burn. It took a couple hours to coax it back to a good fire. But during mild winter weather my rebound time is about the same with both 12 and 24 hour burn cycles.

YEP, you need something with a hopper Lee. It'll give ya WAY more time for all your research here:)