eshland 260 coalgun

eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: fifthg On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:36 pm

how do these compare to efm stokers,I never heard of eshland 260,have heard of ahs coalgun,is it the same?
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:39 pm

fifthg wrote:how do these compare to efm stokers,I never heard of eshland 260,have heard of ahs coalgun,is it the same?


They were Eshland before they were AHS. It would be a bit on the older side, dating back to perhaps as far as 1976.

Does it have a round gravity hopper, or an auger feed like the AA's? I believe (based on info provided by Whistlenut) that the oldest Eshlands had an auger feed more akin to the AA's.
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:45 pm

Eshland became AHS. Some changes have been made to the ashing system, but I think the modern AHS units are very similar to the ones produced by Eshland.
The Eshland/AHS units burn pea or buck size coal.

EFM stokers are underfed...the coal gets pushed up from the bottom into the fire. The Eshland/AHS units have a hopper on top, and the coal is gravity fed into the burn chamber. There is a grate on the bottom of the firetube that moves and shaves the ash off, which allows fresh coal to enter the top of the tube.

There are pros and cons to each design.
Rob R.
 
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: fifthg On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:49 pm

thanks guys.I also wonder what is the output,heatwise,and is it fha or boiler
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:51 pm

Boiler. Should put out an honest 200,000 btu's/hr.
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: fifthg On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:20 pm

thanks again,Rob,I am looking to go fha for peace of mind,in the event of power outage,no pipes to freeze,and I have heard it is better to heat a large drafty plant with hot air rather than hot water anyway.Can't use the coal gun then.
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:22 pm

Keystoker makes some big hot air furnaces. EFM makes the AF150, Leisure Line makes the Anthtaking 220.
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: fifthg On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:26 pm

is the efm 700 not available in fha?
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:27 pm

Nope. boiler only.
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:29 pm

Have you considered antifreeze for the current system?
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: fifthg On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:43 pm

that's what is in it,but an old timer told me to "build for the dumbest man".Mine keeps adding water!We have no onsite water,so I bring in barrels.Another old timer told me fha is better for my application,that being drafty and large.He has nothing to sell me,and I trust him.
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:49 pm

He makes a good point.
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: McGiever On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:28 pm

So, how many btu/hr is heating it now? ( current size)

:idea: May turn out a Keystoker F/A is your only choice based on size required. :idea:

If you haven't already, talk to scrapper23jr and/or MattD, both members here, they know these answers best. :)
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:24 pm

That Eshland 260 is good for an honest 260K and I have a couple along with a dozen AA's. I did have an early Eshland 130K that had an auger, twisted belt AND a separate gear reduction motor to do the ashing. They will do the job, however the hopper arrangement kind of makes one want a feed auger. Is the one you are looking at an indirect drive model for the blower? The heat from the swirl chamber will telegraph back through the motor shaft on direct drive models, consequently, I prefer the indirect. Also, no vibration with the indirect. Direct drive uses a Jacuzzi pool motor and they are 3/4 hp as I recall. vs 1/3 hp on the indirect blower drive configuration. No hot air models, only Yellow Flame, if you can find one, or Keystoker for a well made current BIG unit.
Leisure Line has two kick ass models at 110K and 220K and just for kicks, as you mention power outages, I think a auto start gen-set might be on the wish list. Many used ones available that are affordable and make excellent back-ups, or prime power. I know of a 50K Generac that is brand new but never used..... all wired up........in a heated mechanical room that could be for sale. It is 3 phase, but a nice unit. If you wanted to use a coalgun, you could use modine style heaters very effectively and stay with hydronics..

If you are looking to heat the plant and need to replace a great deal of the piping, perhaps a retro to warm air is the best solution. I never can say I built for the 'weakest link', but lately I am thinking the 'Gene Pool ' is without water judging from the topics that pop up here. Old timers have seen many very bad situations, and are merely trying to save another generation from the same fate. I respect them. too bad more didn't.
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Re: eshland 260 coalgun

PostBy: Kennebago On: Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:28 pm

I know nothing about the person selling them or about the condition of the furnaces but there are two large Keystokers went on Craigslist yesterday. Says they are like new, 2 years old,... were used to heat a greenhouse...... one is 250K BTU and the other is 350K BTU. Price says $4500 ... who knows --- looks like they are in Lock Haven, PA
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