Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: D-frost On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:27 am

Mrs Southy,
I purchased a used Chubby off of Craigs List about 6 weeks ago-$250. This 1979 unit has the see through door, full window, external shaker,a blower with a variable speed rheostat, and came with a new spare grate. It was missing the ash pan, and the mica was a mess.

As I stated earlier, I only replaced a Jotul #118 wood burner because it would not burn coal.

After looking at your floor plan with the open staircase, I think you will need a fan to move the heat to the dining area and family room and back to the living room. Otherwise, the heat will go upstairs. If you find a Chubby with a blower, great. If not, low speed fans will give the same result.

On the Chubbystove.com web page, click on 'operator manual', and open the .pdf file. Scrolling down to the pictures of a fireplace install with a "baro". I installed a "baro" with a home made cover from an aluminum pie plate, to use when burning wood. This house is a 1400-1500 sq.ft. ranch, built in the late 1950's. This Chubby is like the "energizer bunny". It will maintain 68-70 degrees in the living, dining, and kitchen areas for a 10-12 hour duration, using 1-1.5 lbs/hour of Reading anthracite nut coal. Burning 'DRY' hard wood, will give the same heat, but much shorter time.

These stoves are out there. They are more plentiful in the Northeast, because they were manufactured here. Ma'am, be patient, you will find one.

Cheers
D-frost
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
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Coal Size/Type: nut/Reading anthracite
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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: MrsSouthy On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:32 am

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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: MrsSouthy On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:35 am

D-frost wrote:Mrs Southy,
I purchased a used Chubby off of Craigs List about 6 weeks ago-$250. This 1979 unit has the see through door, full window, external shaker,a blower with a variable speed rheostat, and came with a new spare grate. It was missing the ash pan, and the mica was a mess.

As I stated earlier, I only replaced a Jotul #118 wood burner because it would not burn coal.

After looking at your floor plan with the open staircase, I think you will need a fan to move the heat to the dining area and family room and back to the living room. Otherwise, the heat will go upstairs. If you find a Chubby with a blower, great. If not, low speed fans will give the same result.

On the Chubbystove.com web page, click on 'operator manual', and open the .pdf file. Scrolling down to the pictures of a fireplace install with a "baro". I installed a "baro" with a home made cover from an aluminum pie plate, to use when burning wood. This house is a 1400-1500 sq.ft. ranch, built in the late 1950's. This Chubby is like the "energizer bunny". It will maintain 68-70 degrees in the living, dining, and kitchen areas for a 10-12 hour duration, using 1-1.5 lbs/hour of Reading anthracite nut coal. Burning 'DRY' hard wood, will give the same heat, but much shorter time.

These stoves are out there. They are more plentiful in the Northeast, because they were manufactured here. Ma'am, be patient, you will find one.

Cheers


That's an awesome deal! You think the fans would do just as well? I've been in contact with a guy about one he says has never been used but it has no blower. Just wasn't sure whether or not to take the leap with no blower.
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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: D-frost On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:54 am

My own personal opinion: the blower is 'nice' to have. If the stove is in great shape, without the blower, for a fair price. I would buy it, keep an eye out for one with a blower. Then re-sell to a friend. After your friends see this 'cute lil puppy', they will want one!!!

These stoves are only about 250lbs. They will fit in the back seat of a car. Find a good one, and take a "road trip".

Cheers
D-frost
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
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Coal Size/Type: nut/Reading anthracite
Other Heating: Jotul #118 wood burner

Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: MrsSouthy On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:59 am

McGiever wrote:Hubby can just oval the 6" pipe to get it to fit through the fireplace damper. ;)


Glad to know this is ok! The chimney liner guy said he could oval the last so many feet of the liner and make a connector to take it back to round.
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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: warminmn On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:51 pm

Dont the blower Chubby's have tubes or pipes that run right thru the stove, then blowers are moving that air? To me, it seems like that would be more efficient then just a fan behind it. (NO, IM NOT STARTING ANOTHER FAN THREAD)

Im sure you could get either to do the job intended. If you get one without a blower try both a regular fan and a ceiling fan. One will likely work better than the other for your situation.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Junior, Efel Nestor Martin
Coal Size/Type: nut and stove anthracite. Soft coal
Other Heating: wood

Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: D-frost On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:29 pm

Hello warmin,
You are correct about tubes through the Chubby, with the blower in back blowing straight out the front. In my review of Mrs. Southy's floorplan, this would push the warm air at the 2nd floor staircase.
I think she will need fan assistance to move the air 90 degrees to the left into the dining area to the family room, and return to the living room. Any warm air that rises upstairs will return cooler air down the stairway to the living room. In the past, I have used small computer boxer fans mounted to the top of an archway or door opening to move air to a room. These fans are 115v AC, about 6"x6", and are quiet. Experimenting with the locations, and direction of flow to give the best heat flow will take a little time to perfect, but it will work.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Yukon Eagle I (multi-fuel oil, wood/coal)
Coal Size/Type: nut/Reading anthracite
Other Heating: Jotul #118 wood burner

Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:03 pm

There are some first generation blower Chubby's that have a shroud wrapped around the back half the stove with blower tubes on the sides. These units don't pop up too often for sale. I don't think that many were made all those years ago. Not long ago someone here on NEPA posted a pic of one these units he had purchased. Can't remember who it was though. I am sure if someone wanted to search for "Blower Chubby's here on NEPA the pic would pop up.

The "Second Generation" Blower Chubby's have the internal canals that run through the stove. The only downside to these is the rare chance you would need to ever replace the firepot these tubes have to be cut out so the new pot can be installed and then the canals re-welded into place. These are very effective units and the blower is pretty quite as well.

The 2013 and onward "Blower Chubby's or the 3rd generation units, look like the second generation only you will no longer have to cut out the canals IF, (very slight if) you would need to replace the firepot. All "Sr Chubby's, regular or blower models pump out between 60-70,000 btu's.
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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: Eb426 On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:36 pm

Well last year in early December I purchased my chubby off craigslist for $500. No blower. But in very good shape. 1979 build date. I live in pa about an hour south of the anthracite mines in an 1877 stone farm house about 2100 square ft. No insulation on outside walls ( they are stone) and little insulation in attic. And drafty windows. I have Oil hot water heat with mostly radiators and some fin tube. I was burning about a 275 gallon tank of oil a month to the tune of about $900 a month. And it was pretty mild those winters. (We just moved here 4 years ago). Since using my chubby I go about 3 months per tank of oil. I just recently had my oil tank filled and on the receipt they have th last 3 fill up dates and gallons purchased. I did a lot of math and figured out that I was saving roughly $3.00 a day by burning coal at $190 a ton picked up in tamaqua pa in my truck. That may not sound like much of a savings but multiply $3.00 a day by say 180 days and it adds up. My stove has been burning this year since October and will probally still be in march. Also I would probally save more money by not keeping my house so warm. I am averaging 75 degrees on my first floor. Not as warm on the second floor due to not having good airflow due to the small dangerous staircase I have. I also must say that while burning a tank of oil a month without my chubby my house was at 68 degrees . I purchased 6500 pounds of coal in the fall and had about 300 from last year. I am about 1/2 way through my pile now. I burn 2 buckets a day averaging a 400 degree stove. On these 0 degree days we have been having I burn 3 buckets a day but at 550 to 600 stove temp. Buckets being the normal coal bucket size about 25 pounds each. I have also purchased a few parts from Larry trainer also. Just as everyone else has to say..... What a great guy. Anyone will be very happy with a chubby stove and dealing with Larry is a pleasure. Also worth mentioning is that last year I also burned about a 1/2 cord of wood too. It burns it pretty good but I did not like the high flue temperatures going into my 150 year old chimney. With coal I can keep my hand on the flue pipe where it enters the wall.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: jjs777_fzr On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:07 pm

If you have the oppurtunity to buy a used Chubby that has never been used - you should be jumping at the opportunity.
I do question anyone that says it has never been used - and if its true and you can get it for a decent price - then go for it.
I wouldn't pay more than $600 for it though.
And if you talk to the guy - don't tell him you've researched this and think his unit is near the value of an ounce of gold. Otherwise you'll never get a good deal.

Remember - when looking to buy a Chubby - if you can...try to get one with a fireview door instead of the tiny little hole they call a window in the original Chubby's.
It's just nice to see the fire. Also be sure it is of the design that you can shake ashes from outside of the stove using the shaker handle.
(and is why I prefer the Penn Stove...I can see the fire! much easier than the Chubby).

-John
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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: jjs777_fzr On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:59 pm

MSSouthy you may want to consider picking up an old book called Coal Comfort.
I own a copy and find it was an interesting read.
I also liked the photo on the front cover.

Here's a scan of the Chubby Stove.
The book illustrates many stoves mostly just for reference.

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Note this is my photo from a scanned page 74 of Coal Comfort by Peter Hotton and I have placed it here for educational and reference purposes under the Fair Use Act 17 U.S.C. § 107.
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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: Rockcrusher45 On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:05 pm

I love my chubby stoves, I have 4 of them... 2 Chubby Sr's in my home, in both firepaces on each end of the house, my home is 3400sf (oil Heat).... One in My lake home on Winnepesawkee in Wolfeboro, NH ever use, "Chubby Sr with rear discharge and Blower) and one at my parents home in NC... all are the full size, all are the Gen 3 shaker pots (Bottom Brace arm), and all have the egg shaped view hole. On average it costs $5/ day when running them..I prefer the Blackshaks or Reading over the Eastern Ice Nut coal. Ive had some QC issues with Eastern ice Coal here in SE Mass...Fist size stove coal fills the bag ok but not my stove...I hear more and more stories about folks getting giant clunkers in their coal orders . Does anyone know how this happens? Has anyone in the Coal iindustry ever used a screener?...LOL In My opinion the Chubby is the best coal stove for the money. I remember going with my dad to purchase our first one from Larry and Kenny Trainer at the Plymouth Coal Stove works in Plympton, ma back in 1981. I have purchased 2 from Craigslist fortunately for me the folks i bought them from didnt know what the hell they were.. they were listed as "Chubby Wood Stove" and I purchased one for $250 and one for $100. both needed gaskets and mica, one didnt have the Firepot in it. I bought everything I need from Larry, I totally restored them and they've saved me about $1800.00 in Fuel costs per year..plus when we lost power for a week in 2013, they provided warmth and cooking ability to the neighbors who joined us. A four star product,. I recommend them restored at $800 or New at 1800.00. A very simple timeless design .
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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:23 pm

Rockcrusher45 wrote:I love my chubby stoves, I have 4 of them... 2 Chubby Sr's in my home, in both firepaces on each end of the house, my home is 3400sf (oil Heat).... One in My lake home on Winnepesawkee in Wolfeboro, NH ever use, "Chubby Sr with rear discharge and Blower) and one at my parents home in NC... all are the full size, all are the Gen 3 shaker pots (Bottom Brace arm), and all have the egg shaped view hole. On average it costs $5/ day when running them..I prefer the Blackshaks or Reading over the Eastern Ice Nut coal. Ive had some QC issues with Eastern ice Coal here in SE Mass...Fist size stove coal fills the bag ok but not my stove...I hear more and more stories about folks getting giant clunkers in their coal orders . Does anyone know how this happens? Has anyone in the Coal iindustry ever used a screener?...LOL In My opinion the Chubby is the best coal stove for the money. I remember going with my dad to purchase our first one from Larry and Kenny Trainer at the Plymouth Coal Stove works in Plympton, ma back in 1981. I have purchased 2 from Craigslist fortunately for me the folks i bought them from didnt know what the hell they were.. they were listed as "Chubby Wood Stove" and I purchased one for $250 and one for $100. both needed gaskets and mica, one didnt have the Firepot in it. I bought everything I need from Larry, I totally restored them and they've saved me about $1800.00 in Fuel costs per year..plus when we lost power for a week in 2013, they provided warmth and cooking ability to the neighbors who joined us. A four star product,. I recommend them restored at $800 or New at 1800.00. A very simple timeless design .


Lake Winnepesawkee (where they now measure property values by the millions :lol: )
I love the look of that Chubby you posted! contrasting doors and top casting :clap:
I vote we get Rock new grates for his stoves in exchange for use of his Winnepesawkee property for the next meet N greet :lol: (I can try to smoooozzzzz Larry into that) toothy
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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: Rockcrusher45 On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:31 pm

I own both, with a Blower and without and I must say in a large room corner door fans work just as well to move the warm air from the stove into other parts of the house. At 110 cfm vs the Chubbys 160 Cfm blower.... you really need to superheat the Chubby to about 500 Degrees to consistantly keep the blower pumping the heat..anything less than 400 degrees and luke warm air is emitted from the blower remeber the heat rises so as soon as it is emitted from the chubby blower it goes about 3 feet out and straight up to the ceiling. Don't lose hope. You don't need the internal Blower system, a corner doorway, ceiling or floor fan works well to circulate the heat both in and out of the room. Remember do not put a fan behind it, it will accelerate your coal usage.

I used a High heat silver to paint all of the cast parts...Im thinking of doing one in high heat gold ...;)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby
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Re: Calling all Chubby Stove owners!!

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:36 pm

Hambden Bob wrote:Yes, anthracite comes in different sizes as well as bituminous coal. I would not burn bituminous coal in your Chubby. The draft design will not burn it very well. Bituminous coal needs more draft above the fire to burn it well and the Chubby is not designed for bituminous coal. The Chubby manual states to use only wood or anthracite for this reason. Anthracite is the hard clean burning coal that you want to burn in your Chubby. From the prices you stated, they are better than what I can get here in Pittsburgh, PA.....Doug


I answered my own question-Don't Burn Bit in a Chubby ! :o

A chubby has two dog ears on the sides. They are designed for if you burn bit coal and get about 20% secondary air to burn off the volatiles. The dog ears are far enough away from the fire pot to allow heating of the secondary air in order to provide good burning of volatiles. Mine burned it very well!!!!
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