My new Crawford!

Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: scalabro On: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:20 pm

McGiever wrote:
I also scored this unbroken upper grate for her while nosing about.


What's the outside and inside diameter of that? And can you get another one for me and my Our Glenwood 111? :yes: It's the same style as your Crawford.


Hi McGiever,

These will not fit a 111 as the fire pot is smaller.

Call Emory or Brandon at the stove hospital to see if they a have good set to sell. I think they have a couple of parts 111's there.

Cheers,
Scott
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Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford No. 2, PP Stewart 14, Crawford 40
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Other Heating: Oil fired forced hot air

Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: PJT On: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:28 pm

Gekko wrote:
wsherrick wrote:Nicest looking Harmon I've ever seen.
Keep us updated.


:cheers:

Too funny!

Today I made a patch to cover the lower exh port hole. Then I put Mrs Crawford on her legs and installed the exh flange in the correct location to meet the existing chimney pipe. Tomorrow she will get some quick dress up rattle can black and it's off we go to coal nirvana.

Over the summer she be put in dry dock for a new back pipe so I don't have to see the scab patch, and a proper paint job.

Can't wait.

Cheers to all,
Scott

Gekko it looks to me that with the position of the outlet on the back pipe being so low that the smoke is going to travel about the same distance whether or the back pipe valve is open or closed......am I all wet or does that sound reasonable?
PJT
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Magee Royal Oak; Glenwood Modern Oak 116
Other Heating: propane

Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: scalabro On: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:16 am

Gekko it looks to me that with the position of the outlet on the back pipe being so low that the smoke is going to travel about the same distance whether or the back pipe valve is open or closed......am I all wet or does that sound reasonable?[/quote]

PJT,

The back pipe is not used to route gases to the base on this style of stove. The gases are fed to the base by closing the valve at the top of the barrel exh flange, forcing the gases to travel around the fire pot inside the barrel of the stove, through the stove base, then out the lower exhaust flange/port. With the upper valve open the stove is in direct draft, the gas will then travel down the pipe and out the lower port and up the chimney.

You can see the area around the fire pot if you look back a few posts.

Hope that clears things up.

Cheers,
Scott
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Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford No. 2, PP Stewart 14, Crawford 40
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Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:25 am

Gekko wrote:I also scored this unbroken upper grate for her while nosing about.



Hi McGiever,

These will not fit a 111 as the fire pot is smaller.

Call Emory or Brandon at the stove hospital to see if they a have good set to sell. I think they have a couple of parts 111's there.


Cheers,
Scott



Thanks Scott, I'll do as you said and give them a call.
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Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: PJT On: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:00 pm

"The back pipe is not used to route gases to the base on this style of stove. The gases are fed to the base by closing the valve at the top of the barrel exh flange, forcing the gases to travel around the fire pot inside the barrel of the stove, through the stove base, then out the lower exhaust flange/port. With the upper valve open the stove is in direct draft, the gas will then travel down the pipe and out the lower port and up the chimney."

Thanks Scott that clears it up. Is there any problem with the draft drawing well when you first fire it up since the smoke must travel down to the outlet instead of up?
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Baseburners & Antiques: Magee Royal Oak; Glenwood Modern Oak 116
Other Heating: propane

Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:34 pm

It will work fine like that. The exhaust goes down inside the stove, around the fire pot, then under the base before it gets to the back pipe. The entire fire bed is surrounded and insulated by both heavy bricks and hot exhaust. That's why these are simply unmatched when it comes to combustion efficiency.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: PJT On: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:10 pm

I just wondered if when everything was cold it had any trouble drawing down instead of up, until the chimney warmed up
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Baseburners & Antiques: Magee Royal Oak; Glenwood Modern Oak 116
Other Heating: propane

Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:15 pm

PJT wrote:I just wondered if when everything was cold it had any trouble drawing down instead of up, until the chimney warmed up


It might, I hope not though.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:12 pm

wsherrick wrote:
PJT wrote:I just wondered if when everything was cold it had any trouble drawing down instead of up, until the chimney warmed up


It might, I hope not though.



William,
You did a wonderful job explaining how to start your #6 in your YouTube videos.


Maybe Gekko or McGiever can explain as well how they cold-start their stoves. I be interested to hear if there's any difference in procedure for cold-starting a suspended firepot baseburner with such a low back pipe outlet. Does the flue pipe need to be warmed first, or are they so air-tight it doesn't matter?

Paul
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Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
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Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: scalabro On: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:44 pm

We'll guy's it's going to be a learning process for me, as I only have but 1&1/2 seasons running my MKII.

My chimney routinely pegs my Bacharach draft gauge @ .12, so I know I at least get that and probably higher because when I measure it the needle slams hard on the end of the scale.

Also when the MKII is down for cleaning a cigar reveals a draft with no fire at all, so I think I'll be OK.

I plan on using the "Cowboy" charcoal and just two ounces of kerosene to start her up.....just like Obi-Wan!

Now I just wish we would get a couple of 30# days so I can shut down the MK II and swap 'em out :mrgreen:
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Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford No. 2, PP Stewart 14, Crawford 40
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Other Heating: Oil fired forced hot air

Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: stovehospital On: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:06 pm

Cold start. If you are in a hurry you can use some newspaper then some lump charcoal. The trick is to not poke it. Just light it and leave the bottom door open for 5 minutes. The you can add about 3-5 " of coal and leave the bottom door open for 5 minutes. Add more coal and close the bottom door. Adjust the stove to0 what you want and see you in several hours.
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Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: scalabro On: Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:24 pm

Thanks for the tip Emery....looks like Saturday morning she will be hooked up and running!
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Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford No. 2, PP Stewart 14, Crawford 40
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired forced hot air

Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: Craw4 On: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:07 am

Can't wait to see how you like the new girl..
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Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford #4, Champion Oak 116
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Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:25 am

Thanks guys. Sounds relatively easy to start.

Gekko, That'll be a nice setting for that stove. ;)

And I like the use of the old kitchen range water boiler as a coal scuttle and stove tool bin. :D Not sure your aware, but they were originally made to fit over two burners on a kitchen range and heat many gallons of water on laundry day. That should hold about twice as much coal as a regular sized coal scuttle.

Paul
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Re: My new Crawford!

PostBy: wilsons woodstoves On: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:40 am

never owned a crawford of that style, have owned a glenwood 111 which I used two seasons than traded it for two cook stoves. wish I still owned the 111, great stove, the crawford is going to perform well . can hardly wait to see how you rate it to what you have been using. Well done patch on back pipe
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