why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:01 pm

If you could get some insulation in that old fireplace damper hole--you'd acquire about 75% more heat in the house
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:02 pm

Emerald7 wrote:Fred, there is no insulation or filler plate. It is a very tight squeeze up through there but I'm sure there's room for insulation. That will be one of the first things i do when this girl shuts down.

Very important that you stuff insulation there. It could make a big difference with draft. Up top also has to be sealed.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:02 pm

Did you shut your ash door & open those vents & open the stove damper?
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix


Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Emerald7 On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:15 pm

I guess I could shut her down for a couple days to do that. Update, we're at 71°. I think it has been a success evening in troubleshooting the hitzer. Time for me to tweak her for the night. 4 a.m comes real early. Thank you for all your advice, greatly appreciate it!
Emerald7
 
Coal Size/Type: kimmels pea
Other Heating: budarus 4 zone boiler
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer 503 insert/hopper

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:25 pm

E, the sooner you correct those issues, the more enjoyment you will get with that stove--sleep tight dude toothy
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Emerald7 On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:27 am

Update, 11pm 71° damper 1/2 and air vent open 80%, temp outside was -17°. 4 am , -27° house at 63 so boiler was running, because I have it set at that temp. So not very impressed there. Now, with it wide open from 4 - 7:30 it's 65......doing something wrong, or need insulation in those areas, that is my next adventure.
Emerald7
 
Coal Size/Type: kimmels pea
Other Heating: budarus 4 zone boiler
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer 503 insert/hopper

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:06 am

You're doing the basics right--that insulation in the fireplace & top of chimney is a must--FYI--if you hired someone to do that install, you should get hold of him & punch him in the face--if you did it---wait for it---punch yourself in the face--I sure wish you would of taken advantage of this FORUM, DURING, the install :( Oh well, ain't hindsight a bitch
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freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Emerald7 On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:15 am

Ouch that hurt..a friend and I installed it, and yes I was told to go on the forum for advice and of course, hadn't. My temp is holding at 66 and have to leave shortly so it will be on its own until evening.
Emerald7
 
Coal Size/Type: kimmels pea
Other Heating: budarus 4 zone boiler
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer 503 insert/hopper

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:32 am

The good news is all is fixable--again, the sooner you shut down, the sooner you'll enjoy the benefits:) the fireplace GAP would be my priority--stuff the hell out of it--get foil face insulation & put as much up there as you can--NO, it will NOT catch fire. When you get that done, check back in & we'll do a step by step SETTINGS session--for the record--after burning wood for 30 + yrs, when I started with coal, I was an idiot--YEP, self proclaimed :clap: toothy
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:33 am

I can honestly say that I have never heard a person running there Hizter with air vents open 80% and not being blown out of the room by the heat. Could there be fly ash build up in the turn up the chimney...HAVE YOU ORDERED YOU MANOMETER YET!? Do you have a c.o. detector?
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:41 am

Emerald,

I suspect once you insulate the chimney are you are going to see a big improvement. Heat from your stove is getting sucked outof the house before it has a chance to well.... HEAT your home. That and MINUS 20 something temps can make it hard for any stove to keep the house around 70 or so. That is BLEEPIN' COLD. Too cold for this old South Western transplant. Don't know how you and my pal FreetownFred deal with those temps. Things on a guy could turn varioius shades of blue if left exposed. :lol: You know.. fingers.. toes.. So get your mind out the gutter Fred! :P

I had to stuff insulation around my exaust pipe on my unit installed in a fireplace as well. 6 inch stove pipe from the Chubby into an 8 inch opening this time around. Prior to that I used a reducer from the 8' to the 6' but wasn't really happy with that. Anyway point being I know if I didn't insulate around the pipe the chimney effect would suck the heat from the stove right up the chimney or allow a boat load of cold air to drift down and into the house.

Your Hitzer is a monster of a stove and should be able to handle keeping your house warm. Keep us posted and WELCOME to NEPA!!
ONEDOLLAR
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: 2014 Chubby Prototype
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford #2 Base Heater
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Anthracite

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:07 am

Emerald7 wrote:I have a 995 sq ft home, with a 17' tile lined chimney and a 6" liner, then with a chimney cap.


The cold chimney thing makes sense.. The room air going up along the liner could be bringing it's temp down as well as causing excessive cold air infiltration from outside cannibalizing your attempts to raise the temperature of the room. Not only that, the neutral pressure plane is raised higher in the house, further hurting negative pressure strength in the stove relative to the room.. :)

Not meant to make it complicated :lol: just needs sealed is all...
Like franco b said, top and bottom...
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Dennis On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:13 pm

Emerald7 wrote:So not very impressed there. Now, with it wide open from 4 - 7:30 it's 65......doing something wrong,

when you have the ash pan open for that long,what does the fire look like,if you can take a pic. of it,so we can see if the fire is starving for air or a raging inferno.That hitzer should heat your little house without a problem.And welcome,you'll get it straightened out.
Dennis
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Emerald7 On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:11 pm

Dennis,
here's a pic with ash pan door open and damper. The only way I can get heat out of her. Shut the ash pan door, and leave the air vents open and damper half way and she starts to act starved, and this is afer its been shook and pan emptied.....what the _heck.
someone asked the question if I had a co2 monitor and yes I have 2. After this fire burns out I will insulate over the weekend and try to stop this craziness. Its driving me NUTS! Guess my pic didn't upload, I will try again.
Emerald7
 
Coal Size/Type: kimmels pea
Other Heating: budarus 4 zone boiler
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer 503 insert/hopper

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Emerald7 On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:18 pm

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Emerald7
 
Coal Size/Type: kimmels pea
Other Heating: budarus 4 zone boiler
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer 503 insert/hopper