why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Emerald7 On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:35 pm

Where does a manometer go? What kind of insulation should I use?
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Coal Size/Type: kimmels pea
Other Heating: budarus 4 zone boiler
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer 503 insert/hopper

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:48 pm

Seems to me that the chimney isn't drafting enough. If it was, by leaving the ash pan door open it seems that in not too long a time period you would be well over-firing and glowing red.
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: franco b On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:51 pm

Emerald7 wrote:Where does a manometer go? What kind of insulation should I use?

Manometer can go between stove exit and before damper area. Plain fiberglass insulation. Could also go on top if you also have a plate to keep it dry.
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:27 pm

Check pix on page 2 Larry
lsayre wrote:Seems to me that the chimney isn't drafting enough. If it was, by leaving the ash pan door open it seems that in not too long a time period you would be well over-firing and glowing red.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Keepaeyeonit On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:37 pm

Emerald7,did I miss something or not? do you have a liner from the stove all the way out through the chimney or just a pipe from the stove into or just past the smoke shelf? Keepaeyeonit
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 983 insert
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:42 pm

he mentioned somewhere earlier it goes the entire length of the chimney.
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Dennis On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:43 pm

when was the chimney liner cleaned :?: and how long have you been burning with the stove and liner
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Keepaeyeonit On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:57 pm

If he has a liner the entire length(and its not full of pin holes :?: ) then he should not have a air infiltration problem causing a low draft. Running a insert with a liner is just like a freestanding stove and not like a insert,except its just inserted into the fireplace and not out in the room plus the heat behind the shroud will go up between the liner and clay or brick and that will help keep the liner warm.Keepaeyeonit
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 983 insert
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Dennis On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:09 pm

Keepaeyeonit wrote:If he has a liner the entire length(and its not full of pin holes :?: ) then he should not have a air infiltration problem causing a low draft. Running a insert with a liner is just like a freestanding stove and not like a insert,except its just inserted into the fireplace and not out in the room plus the heat behind the shroud will go up between the liner and clay or brick and that will help keep the liner warm.Keepaeyeonit

I was refering to,is the chimney clogged with fly ash :?:
Dennis
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Keepaeyeonit On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:21 pm

Dennis, I know what you were saying :) but If he has a liner the entire length, its solid and sealed good to the stove he should not have a air related(air infiltration) low draft problem but a tight house or a short chimney mite be a possibility thats why I'm asking.Keepaeyeonit
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 983 insert
Coal Size/Type: Mammoth nut
Other Heating: oil furnace,and a crappy heat pump

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:34 pm

MAYBE--just maybe, he will come back on and give people that have been trying to help an update.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: Emerald7 On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:37 am

I installed the insert 3 months ago. I have a 6" liner the chimney is 17' and its tile lined chimney. How difficult is it to install a manmeter on an insert? I am burning my last hopper full right now and sunday insulate, try to install meter, and possibly clean the flue. I really believe its a poor draft pull along with lack of insulation.
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Coal Size/Type: kimmels pea
Other Heating: budarus 4 zone boiler
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer 503 insert/hopper

Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:17 am

Emerald7 wrote:Where does a manometer go? What kind of insulation should I use?


I was told that the insulation needed to be the dense, non flammable kind - like the "rock wool" brand. That's what I used in the recent installation of my Mark I. I don't know if a normal fiber glass insulation would create a fire concern due to heat coming from the chimney, particularly with a coal stove, but the increased density of the "rock wool" definitely blocks the air movement better. Take care, Lisa
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: oilman On: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:39 pm

We use rigid rockwool insulation to seal the damper area off. You must keep the area around the liner as a dead air space.
Another thing to do- put a piece of 6" gavanized pipe 24" long on the top of your liner........if things improve, you need more height. (remember, this is a temporary trouble shooting procedure)
There are ways to properly add height to the stack with stainless if you need to.
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Re: why doesn't my hitzer 503 heat my small house

PostBy: McGiever On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:13 am

Is this chimney on a outside wall or inside house?
Being only a 3 mo. old install I'd say liner is messed up real bad.
How was liner fastened onto the stove collar?...might be messed up.

If it was mine, I'd shorten up liner to about 4'-5' and seal around fp damper as others have said.
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