How come dealers don't....

How come dealers don't....

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:59 pm

How come dealers and stove shops don't sell manometers and C.O. detectors. We are constantly asking new coal burners if they have these 2 very important items. C.O. detectors are easily had but waiting for my manometer was torture!
Let's hear it!
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:08 pm

Sure as Hell is a Great Question ! Probably some Legal/Insurance Mumbo Jumbo,although I can't come up with a good reason why! :bang:
Hambden Bob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
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Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:27 pm

Not only should they sell these items, they should insist their customers purchase them with the stove and tell them why they are so important!!!
:yearight: :mad3:
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
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Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:29 pm

thats one hell of a good question :eek2: never really thought about it before you said it... i cant think of a good answer :cry: i dont think it would be insurance or liability related (i would think NOT having them and NOT suggesting and/or recommending and/or advocating their use would be a MUCH larger liability/warranty/insurance issue on couple fronts #1 I overfired my stove because draft was high and its the dealers fault because i had no mano available or suggested #2 my inlaws are dead because the stupid dealer sold products, installed products, marketed products without the proper accessories for that product.... i want my 10 Mil NOW!

it should be law that they sell them, show them, suggest them... stove manufactures should advocate that their dealer networks make available both of these products, etc....

GG MA! for shedding light on a subject that is ABSOLUTELY true yet i never thought about before you said it :clap:
Last edited by dcrane on Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:31 pm

[quote="Lightning"]Not only should they sell these items, they should insist their customers purchase them with the stove and tell them why they are so important!!!
:yearight: :mad3:[/quote]

exactly bro, how many times THIS SEASON did you ask, "do you have a manometer?" I would rather have the first question be..."what does your manometer say?"
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:32 pm

[quote="dcrane"]thats one hell of a good question :eek2: never really thought about it before you said it... i cant think of a good answer :cry: i dont think it would be insurance or liability related (i would think NOT having them and NOT suggesting and/or recommending and/or advocating their use would be a MUCH larger liability/warranty/insurance issue on couple fronts #1 I overfired my stove because draft was high and its the dealers fault because i had no mano available or suggested #2 my inlaws are dead because the stupid dealer sold products, installed products, marketed products without the proper accessories for that product.... i want my 10 Mil NOW!

it should be law that they sell them, show them, suggest them... stove manufactures should advocate that their dealer networks make available both of these products, etc....

GG MA! for shedding light on a subject that is ABSOLUTELY true yet i never thought about before you said it :clap:[/quote]

Maybe our friends from L.L. can enlighten us or start a trend!
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: dcrane On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:33 pm

michaelanthony wrote:
Lightning wrote:Not only should they sell these items, they should insist their customers purchase them with the stove and tell them why they are so important!!!
:yearight: :mad3:


exactly bro, how many times THIS SEASON did you ask, "do you have a manometer?" I would rather have the first question be..."what does your manometer say?"


Hmmm... i cant think of a stove dealer near me that sells these.... gotta be a way to make $$$ of this idea :idea:
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:36 pm

Maybe the dealers are afraid it would complicate the user experience and scare potential customers away from purchasing the stove... I'm sure its all about the sale.. :x

They probably just figure if the customer has issues, they can get into these items to fix it.. Lets just worry about selling the stove first.. :shifty:
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix

Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:39 pm

Possible Good yet Unscrupulous Point,Dr. Lightning! I brought up the Stupid Liability/Legal Thing due to the fact in Ohio,if you maintain a sidewalk(snow removal) and someone falls your pants can get sued right off. If you don't do snow removal,you're supposedly fine. Sorta' defies my sense of common sense,logic and gravity. Thought the same Screwball Deal could be applied to this rather Fantastic Topic ! :bang:
Hambden Bob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni !

Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:45 pm

How many pages did we have on Barometric Dampeners? An that's on a coal forum. Do you realize the calls we would get. :)


BTW they are available from our dealers. Not sure who stocks them but.
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:48 pm

What's A Barometric Damper? :lol: toothy :woot: :bang:
Hambden Bob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni !

Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:51 pm

[quote="dcrane"]

Hmmm... i cant think of a stove dealer near me that sells these.... gotta be a way to make $$$ of this idea :idea:[/quote]

Hey dc, would you like to purchase the rights to Massachusetts? toothy I'll purchase the Maine rights, maybe we can get lightning to take New York! :P
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:56 pm

In the front door and out the back, were a guy with a crooked nose and an Armani suit in a cloud of cig smoke grabs you by the scruff of you neck and say's.."you want one o' deez right.. RIGHT!
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:59 pm

Lets see stove dealer's usually are coal dealers.... so if inefficient coal burner to start means more coal sales to start. Not too hard to figure out. Not shaming the dealers, everyone goes thru the learmning process... controls, house upgrades, etc, etc.... but a manometer would help to identify causes of some of newbies problems with flue/chimney issues if they do exsist. Co sensors good no matter what heating appliance one uses. you burn a hydrocarbon based fuel Co is created. Unless the heat source is outside the inhabitated structure.
wilder11354
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF260
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Re: How come dealers don't....

PostBy: Berlin On: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:00 pm

If you make it sound more complicated, people will go another route. They get away w/ pushing unnecessary chimney liners because the industry has done such a good job with propaganda on those.
Berlin
 
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